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NavySEAL115

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posted February 21, 2001 06:08 PM

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Check this out! I got at 50 mL vial of Ref-Dianabol(eq. 250 5 mg/tabs) and 1250 mg's of Sustanon... considering that this was my first time, i was thinking of shooting my ass with 200 mg/wk Sust for 5 weeks, and taking the dianabol for 10 weeks, yes 10 weeks, at 10/10/15/15/20/20/15/15/10/10. I know alot of you probably won't get shit off of this, but I'm considering it! I also got a bit of Clomid and Nolvadex. If my test levels are a bit HIGH right now before the cycle, should I start taking the Nolvadex EOD at 10mg's??? Thanx, NavySEAL


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NavySEAL115

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posted February 21, 2001 06:15 PM

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So what do you think???


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FOZY

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posted February 21, 2001 06:17 PM

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I wouls not do 10 weeks of refv-b, buts that me. It is 17AA if you were unaware, 10 weeks is going to be mighty harsh on Mr. Liver. I am using ref in my next bulking cycle at 2cc's a day for 4 weeks.

As far as the sus goes ..get more, 500mg for 8 weeks at least....

I ahve no idea what you mean with the nolva statement

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Big Buck

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posted February 21, 2001 06:26 PM

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Hit the Sust at least 500mgs for 8 weeks....only hit the d-bol (ret B) for 5 weeks. U need to do some seriousresearch.


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peckerwood

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posted February 21, 2001 06:30 PM

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IF YA GOT 1250MG'S OF SUS AND ARE ONLY DOING 200MG A WEEK THEN ARE YOU GOING TO JUST SHOOT LIKE 3/4 OF A CC A WEEK ? YOU NEED THAN THAT BRO . NEVER TRIED REF. BUTI THINK YOU CAN OUT IT IN A CAPSULE AND TAKE IT ORAL WITH THE SAME IF NOT BETTER AFFECTS , NOT REALLY SURE THOUGH ? MAY SAVE A PIN HOLE OR TWO ?

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BerkeleyJuice

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posted February 21, 2001 06:37 PM

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You've got a lot of learning to do young grasshopper.


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NavySEAL115

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posted February 21, 2001 06:42 PM

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Ok, how about 20mg/day Ref for 8 weeks, and 250mg/wk Sust for 8 weeks, and 50mg/EOD Clomid throughout the cycle? Sound better! I've been lifting for 2 1/2 years now, only 5'7"/155lbs. How much might I gain? How much will I keep? Thanx


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peckerwood

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posted February 21, 2001 06:49 PM

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the clomid may hinder your gains if ya take it through out the whole cycle , take it about a week from your last shot of sus and ref @50mg a day for 1 week then 100mg a day for 2 weeks , depending on your workouts , genetics and eating habits will determine your gains . good luck

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 21, 2001 06:53 PM

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What about the Nolvadex? When do I start taking that, after the last shot of Ref and Sust? Clomid will pick my test levels back up right, so if I follow your advice on the Clomid, should I still go with 10000I.U.'s of HCG every three days for two weeks? Thanx, NavySEAL


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peckerwood

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posted February 21, 2001 07:06 PM

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never had the iu's , but yea on the clomid , only take the nolva if you start to get gyno . just keep it on hand , just incase .

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Big C

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posted February 22, 2001 09:34 AM

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Seal take the dbol for 10 weeks if you wish.
2 cc a day, twice a day.

Most guys here think it is crazy but it is not all that bad, take plenty of milk thistle, 600-800 mg daily.
I did the same type cycle a while back and kept the dbol running for a long time, had my liver enzymes tested while on, and of course they were high, but 3 months after I was off they were back to normal. Do what you want cuz you probably will anyways but dose it at 2cc a day at least.


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Spunky

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posted February 22, 2001 09:53 AM

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peckerwood: what are u telling this guy? Clomid may hinder gains??? where did u get that? geezz.. no flame to you man but u need to do some serious research before u do ANY cycle.. u don't know much at all about AS and its plain to see that in your msg. no flame.


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Mass Monster

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posted February 22, 2001 10:06 AM

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Yea bro do some reasearching or you might end up hurting yourself. Sus 8-9 weeks 500mg and ref-b for 4 - 5 weeks. But thats just me if you want to take ref-b for 10 weeks be my guest.

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