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bloatboy35

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posted February 21, 2001 07:44 AM

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Sup bros,

getting a little excited about my next cycle(8 weeks away), i have some anadrol thown into the mix. It's one of the very few steroids that i've never done before, it was always diffucult to obtain in the past, but not now. What are your experiences with this stuff, is it really as powerful as people say? Let me hear your thoughts.....


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havoc

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posted February 21, 2001 07:51 AM

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Its weird that you ask about this. My favorite thing to do in the whole world is to crush 8 anadrol tabs, sniff them like a line and follow it with 3 shots of winny. Nothing comes close to this feeling.

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Fonz

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posted February 21, 2001 07:59 AM

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What's up with the weird posts Havoc?
Just kidding....LOL

Done Anadrol.....result.....hate it with
a passion.......enough said.

Bet any money MeanOne logs into
this thread for sure. LOL

Godspeed


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 21, 2001 08:00 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by havoc:
Its weird that you ask about this. My favorite thing to do in the whole world is to crush 8 anadrol tabs, sniff them like a line and follow it with 3 shots of winny. Nothing comes close to this feeling.


hehe, it is good it comes with a price and most of what people gain is usually lost. Strength surges which is good, include some winny with it even if at 20-25mgs/day and dont go too long on aa17's or no need to go over 100mgs/day as you havent used before and will experience gains and sides off this amount.

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Fonz

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posted February 21, 2001 08:03 AM

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Also, if you searched the archives
I believe this topic has been beaten
to death...not to mention we did
a poll on anadrol and its dosages.
Not a flame, just a thought....

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 21, 2001 08:11 AM

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Hmmmmm

for those who havent already read this article:

First, let's explore its legitimate medical use. Oxymetholone was originally used by patients suffering from anemia. It stimulates the production of erythropoietin, and is extremely effective, although relatively toxic. It is the only steroid which is conclusively linked with cancer. While available, it was also very cheap. In recent years, it has become rather obsolete, as a new drug named EPO was developed for treating conditions related to anemia. EPO is a favorite of professional bicyclists, and is also used by high-level amateur and professional bodybuilders during contest preparation. Pharmaceutical companies prefer to distribute (one might even say PUSH) EPO rather than oxymetholone, as the former generates greater profits. So, the legitimate production of oxymetholone has dropped considerably, in some parts of the world it has ceased altogether. This situation has created problems for a lot of athletes, and the lack of availability is probably a causative factor behind the hype surrounding oxymetholone.

Athletes (recreational and professional) usually praise substances that are not readily available. In most cases, however, the hype does not hold water. Yes, these hard-to-find drugs do produce results, but laws of supply and demand makes them very expensive. Then there is a problem with fakes. High demand exceeds supply by far, so the floor is set for crooks to make a buck and na�ve, mostly recreational athletes make it even easier for them to succeed in their dirty job.

Some of my acquaintances are perfect examples of such trends: one competitive bodybuilder cannot afford growth hormone, so its absence from this guys stack is the reason why he cannot make a breakthrough in his development. Another one uses everything he can get his hands on. He went even so far and gained 28 kilograms (62 pounds) in 32 days (against my advice - using shotgun approach), and then had the nerve to call for my advice when the side effects became too serious. Very few people can endure such rapid weight gain without ill effects. Needless to say, his gain was mostly water and upon cessation of the cycle (if it can be called a cycle), his weight quickly evaporated. This just goes to show you that FAST is going to get you nowhere. Unquestionably, anadrol is an effective steroid for sheer mass, but it is not my top choice for several reasons. First, it is not suitable for stacking. Anecdotal reports suggest that when anadrol is used on its own (monotherapy), side effects should not cause substantial problems (unless you are genetically sensitive individual). There is the flu-like effect and water retention (possible hypertension), maybe some acne, headaches, hair thinning, and possible gynecomastia but all these side effects are cosmetic and do not severely affect the health of the user. The picture changes once anadrol is part of a stack. Liver function is usually greatly compromised (hepatitis, jaundice), and if the individual decides to stay on the compound for extended periods (or has high frequency of using the compound), permanent pathological liver changes are possible, including liver cancer (hepatocarcinoma). Water retention related hypertension is increased, and risk of gynecomastia is drastically increased as well. All these side effects usually accompany stacks containing anadrol, sometimes regardless of the cumulative dosage of steroids per unit of time (this phenomenon is odd, as the side effects seem to be of similar intensity, using either 500mg of steroids per week, or 2000mg or more of steroids per week, as long as oxymetholone is part of the stack). Consequently, I do not suggest that my clients use anadrol, at least not in stacks. It also has to be pointed out that anadrol should not be in the drug arsenal of the recreational bodybuilder, this drug has significant enough health risk that it should be reserved for top bodybuilders and athletes. Forget reports that Chris Duffy (in his pre-porn days) used 10 anadrols daily, on top of 2000mg testosterone weekly, in addition to his purported massive use of clenbuterol. Such quantities are vastly exaggerated (or he is a genetic miracle, or had extremely well designed all-round protection program against side effects while using such stack, or both).

Another problem I see with anadrol is its availability. A healthy amount of mysticism is wrapped around anadrol. Most athletes that do not have the access to the drug firmly believe that should they somehow attain a sufficient quantity of the drug, their bodybuilding progress would change overnight. Often times, failure to acquire thus drug is the reason they attribute their lack of meaningful progress in their physiques. Most of the oxymetholone on the black market is fake anyway. And even if one is lucky enough to discover a reliable source of legitimate drug, its price is hardly worth its effects. Yes, you will gain mass, but not a pound or more daily for the first few weeks on the drug (as reported in several popular publications). The same results can be attained by using injectable testosterone in upwards of gram quantities weekly, and injectable testosterone, even a dosages of 1 g a week, if far less toxic than using anadrol.

Lets discuss anadrols strength. Oxymetholone has very poor receptor binding ability, so it has to be manufactured in 50mg per unit (tablet) to achieve the desired therapeutic effect. A comparison (milligram per milligram) of oxymetholone with methandrostenolone (DIANABOL) would reveal a similar strength and anabolic effect per each milligram. Keep in mind, that for every tablet of anadrol (50mg), you would have to ingest 10 tablets of dianabol (5mg). This quantity probably negates any financial benefit on the part of dianabol, but at least accessibility of dianabol is not a problem. At such quantity side effects of dianabol would be comparative to that of anadrol. On a mg per mg basis, Another problem with anadrol is its yo-yo effect (fluctuations in bodyweight). Once the compound is discontinued, the weight-loss is rapid, affecting the psychological as well as physical status of the trainee. This in turn drives the athlete to prematurely engage in another unnecessary or counterproductive cycle.

To avoid such problems, one should implement a strong injectable androgen (usually testosterone), upon cessation of monotherapy with anadrol. The testosterone should then be replaced with a high dose mild anabolic in conjunction with heavy anti-estrogen therapy and finally, its dosage should then be tapered off. This strategy will ensure that most of the gains will be kept in transition and consequent "off" period.


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Fonz

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posted February 21, 2001 08:28 AM

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Good post Iron Game!!

Lets see what MeanOne has to say
about it....LOL
(not a flame MeanOne BTW)

Godspeed


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miles

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posted February 21, 2001 09:06 AM

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I am certain that the above guys know a lot more about this than I do, but I am currently doing 500mgs sos every four days in conjunction with 1 andadrol + 1 T3 first thing in the am and 1 anadrol + 1 T3 just before bed. I feel really good and my overall mass is looking great. I will discontinue the anadrol after a week, continue the test and T3 for three more weeks and then end with some zambons at 50mg per day for three weeks. Bottom line is that I like the anadrol. If I am being really stupid here, it would be really nice for someone to let me know.


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Mass Monster

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posted February 21, 2001 09:20 AM

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Anadrol gets an A+ for excellent in my book as far as I am concerned!

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bloatboy35

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posted February 21, 2001 09:20 AM

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So irongame, what your saying is that when i follow a50 for a couple of weeks with some test/deca for 12 weeks, i should be ok as far as keeping most of gains.


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Slopain

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posted February 21, 2001 11:01 AM

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I like the stuff, it seems to me the sides, and bloat are grossly overstated, that said I am only at 1 a day.

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MeanOne

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posted February 21, 2001 12:18 PM

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Me, talk about Anadrol in a good light, NEVER! LOL Fonz. Anyway, yes I love my A50. I beleive that it's chances and likelyhoods of side effects is dependant on it's users. I experience very few sides from A50, others turn into walking ticks.

I have posted a study before that goes on to suggest that all 17aa steriods hold the same level of possible harm to the liver as each other, so I won't go there again (basicly - to lazy to look for it again, lol). That being said, 50mgs a day is relatively safe. up to 72mgs a day would be safe, as proven by clinical study. However, you have to determain for yourself what is safe, because just as there are peole 4'3" tall and 8'10" tall, people have different reactions to Meds, particularly Anadrol.

Start at one tab a day, have some winny around if there is gyno, and some Nolvadex if the water becomes to harsh.


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b fold the truth

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posted February 21, 2001 01:44 PM

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bump for bloatboy35's post. I have some A50 on the way. Was thinking about starting some deca after it to help keep some gains. What do you think? Or should I use the A50 for the first 4 weeks on the deca while I am waiting for the deca to kick in? Thanks for your help.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 21, 2001 03:28 PM

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Slopain, have you tried a-bombs before & if so what were results like?

As for the other question: would it be better to continue using something else after coming off anadrol / anapolan? Yes it could only be beneficial. I am not putting down anadrol users. If you can cope with the sides then good, unfortunately most people cannot and can get away with using other steroids in its place. What I found out on anapolan is that I gained about 13 lbs in 2 wks on only 1 tab a day and going up to 1.5. Strength went up surprisingly fast as well. When I stopped it the strength came back down and I lost 11lbs. It caused a lack of motivation on my part to lose so much so fast and at the price of acne everywhere. I simply will not do it again. I am going to be trying suspension soon at 700mgs/wk and 1000mgs of enanthate. Anadrol and suspension in many ways are similar and I will see if I suffer as bad. Either way use an anti estrogen add some winny in there continue using other steroids once the anadrol is stopped.


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MeanOne

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posted February 21, 2001 04:04 PM

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Anadrol+Suspension+Fina = mass stack from hell! Anyone tried injecting Lidocaine or novacaine with suspension??? I'm going to try this the next time around.


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JohnnyD

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posted February 21, 2001 05:38 PM

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I have to say i think a50 is a little more hyped up than it should be.
Atl east from my experience with the stuff.
I guess form all the posts I have read, I just expected more out of it.

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Krusher

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posted February 21, 2001 06:24 PM

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Finally I'm on real anadrol (paper) and I just love it..beats d-bol by a wide margin. I was worried about it being too strong but
the only sides were some headaches for the first few days..using winny and testo with it..my new favourite mass stack.

A++++ for anadrol!


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I'm on them right now and hands down they kick DBOL ASSSSsss.

I'm using the same dose of test and deca I used with the dbol last time. Now that I've replaced it with A50's this cycle I've had much better results. FAR less zits on my back, less water retention and better strength off the bat.

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b fold the truth

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posted February 21, 2001 10:33 PM

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warlobo...you have mail. I would also like to hear what everyone stacked their adrol with. I have a lot of deca on hand but I hear that deca is not the drug to stack adrol with without a lot of winny v on hand even at low doses (300mg deca/week, 25-50mg adrol/day).

Opinions???

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posted February 21, 2001 10:47 PM

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Thanks Iron Game, exellent post


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