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Cuts

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posted February 21, 2001 07:15 AM

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I've been injecting small amounts (0.25-0.5 cc) of Winstrol Depot into my bis every 4 days or so for the past 2 weeks now. It hurt like hell at first, but, no doubt about it... my bis are GROWING! I don't think that it's just a temporary pump b/c for the 2 days post-injection, they were really, really sore, and flat & soft. After they recovered and I did a bi workout however, they got incredibaly pumped and hard, and they're big and hard all the time now! I love this shit. It hurts, but for results like this, I can live with the pain.

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Hanz&Franz

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posted February 21, 2001 07:18 AM

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It's no big secret that pro's inject in there lagging muscle groups...I've been injecting 1mlomna/1ml prop in my tri's every three days....you don't know the meaning of pain...........


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Cuts

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posted February 21, 2001 07:21 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Hanz&Franz:
It's no big secret that pro's inject in there lagging muscle groups...I've been injecting 1mlomna/1ml prop in my tri's every three days....you don't know the meaning of pain...........

Where on your tris do you inject? Which head? Top? Bottom? I'm thinking about doing the same. Thanks.

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Hanz&Franz

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posted February 21, 2001 07:46 AM

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stand in front of the mirror in the bathroom...place your hand down on the sink....flex your tri and swab the lateral head(outer) of your horeshoe...now with a 23-25g and only 1"....inject into the outer head with a slight upward angle toward the shoulder...be sure to aspirate and then inject slowly if all is good...I must warn the pain is really not something I enjoy...omna/prop probably doesn't help the cause...


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lomaximo

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posted February 21, 2001 07:53 AM

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I've been injecting in my bi's with 1cc of winstrol. I found that if you inject 10-15 minutes before your workout it helps with the pain. During the workout there is some pain but the blood flow in the bis helps and the pumps are awesome.....by the way where are you injecting in your bi's?

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Cuts

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posted February 21, 2001 08:23 AM

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Lomaximo: I'm injecting into the highest point/peak of my bicep, being careful to avoid any visible veins. What about you?

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MRLUCKY

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posted February 21, 2001 01:34 PM

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That pump that you feel after a site inject is ALL MENTAL! Site injections are a complete myth and can be very dangerous. If site injections were proven true then, well my butt would be HUGE! Along with my quads. So are you saying that when you inject into your Quad, that you get a better leg workout, or when you inject into your glut, you get petter pumps in your butt? Just think about it.

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InstantGrowth

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posted February 21, 2001 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by MRLUCKY:
That pump that you feel after a site inject is ALL MENTAL! Site injections are a complete myth and can be very dangerous. If site injections were proven true then, well my butt would be HUGE! Along with my quads. So are you saying that when you inject into your Quad, that you get a better leg workout, or when you inject into your glut, you get petter pumps in your butt? Just think about it.


I disagree with you Mrlucky for simple reasons. Think about the body's physiology. When a foreign substance is introduced into the body its natural reaction is the fight it. Blood rushes to the site of injection causing swelling therefore enhancing the pump. So I don't think its all mental. Now I am not saying that this causes permanent growth in that site.... I guess it could if enough scar tissue builds up.

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dahmer

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posted February 21, 2001 02:11 PM

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The extra pump is physically there. Like that guy said about the blood rushing to the site. But that is temporary. There is no extra growth on site injection in the long run. YOur dead on about why is your ass not huge??? I have shot a hundred cc's into my ass and it has not grown an inch.


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GNCMAN

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posted February 21, 2001 02:49 PM

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When was the last time you looked at your ass, the top of my ass is big and hard as a rock from injections. That is totally from site injections.


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smokingunz

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posted February 21, 2001 02:54 PM

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hey mrlucky, i do think site injections can do more at times. i had a buddy who shot is winny in is ass for his whole cycle. sorry bout is luck but his buddy cut up alot, but is ass was HUUUUGE
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MeanOne

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posted February 21, 2001 04:08 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by MRLUCKY:
That pump that you feel after a site inject is ALL MENTAL! Site injections are a complete myth and can be very dangerous. If site injections were proven true then, well my butt would be HUGE! Along with my quads. So are you saying that when you inject into your Quad, that you get a better leg workout, or when you inject into your glut, you get petter pumps in your butt? Just think about it.


Yeah right, okay, now I heard it. If you put more fluid into a muscle, then force more blood into the muscle which is already partially fillled by the other fluid, how do you expect that there would be no increase in the feeling of a pump? Have you ever done a site injection??? I've been using GetPandP's product for over a year now, and it DOES WORK!!!


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MRLUCKY

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posted February 21, 2001 04:23 PM

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The Winny is ok. But when you get guys into heavier drugs like Tests, and Sus. then not only is it stupid it can be deadly. A fellow member of my gym tired to site inject in his calve and he died. I just dont want every person that comes along and reads this post that its OK to stick yourself anywhere you want with those types of drugs.

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Cuts

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posted February 21, 2001 04:36 PM

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MRLUCKY: I disagree with you about site injections not working. I personally believe in the fascia stretch theory. This theory states that one of the great obstacles to muscle growth is the tight connective tissue covering of the muscle...i.e. the fascia. Arnold used to stretch his arms down to the ground when doing dumbell flyes for this very reason... to stretch the pectoral fascia. Now, how does site injecting fit in here? Well, I believe that site injecting INTO THE SMALLER MUSCLE GROUPS helps to stretch out the fascia around them, and thereby help lead to greater growth in the long run. The reason this won't work with larger muscle groups (e.g. glutes, quads) is that the amount of fluid injected is relatively much less compared to the large fascia of these giant muscle groups, and this will not cause any significant fascia stretch. As far as the "pump" goes, I agree with the statement above... it is very real and caused by a mild inflammatory reaction in the region of the injection. Finally, it makes logical sense to me that the myocytes AT THE INJECTION SITE would recieve a somewhat greater concentrations of the steroid molecules before they were absorbed into the bloodstream and dispersed throughout the body, and this could also somewhat contribute to local growth. Bottom line: In my opinion, site injection DOES work.

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PokeMeMon

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posted February 21, 2001 04:37 PM

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then how come in new Muscle mag issues it said taht Site injections actually work but not with oil based / esters drugs!! it said like with winstrol, it releases right away in which the full concnentration of the steroid will start in the bicep.


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gearseeker

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posted February 21, 2001 04:50 PM

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Mrlucky is mrsilly! If someone died from site injecting thier calf - it must have been with rat poison, plutonium, etc. You would seriously have to go out of your way to hurt yourself injecting. Sure it hurts and can cause major problems if you hit a nerve, vien, etc - but you aint gonna die fool!

For everyone else: I get the same results from site injecting weather its oil based or water. I think the water base just irritates the muscle tissue more. Ive had good luck with deca, test, fina, eq, and everything else Ive tried. It works.


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ironbarbarian

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WHAT ARE U ALL SAYING!!!!HOW CAN SITE INJECTIONS MAKE YOU BIGGER ON THAT MUSCLE GROUP???!!!!!, YES THEY WILL PUMP YOU UP, BUT THE GEAR HAS TO GO TO THE LIVER BEFORE IT IS USED,,,YES THE LIVER, AND THEN IT IS CARRIED AROUND THE BODY IN THE BLOOD...THINK ABOUT IT....


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airtyme

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posted February 21, 2001 05:42 PM

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Icon is right. The actual steroid is released in the blood, carriend thru you system and tagets the recptors. Site injuct does not work, except with PGF2 due to the fact that it binds in the specific area. Androgenic and anabolic steroids do not.

Think about it this way, because the principle is the same. If you cut your foot and need a tetneus shot, due the spot inject? No, the shoot you in the arm or glute because the drug is carried thru the blood strean and targets the specific area. The principle is the same with AS.

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gearseeker

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posted February 21, 2001 05:46 PM

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I would wager that anyone who is saying that site injecting doesnt work has not tried it.

Am I wrong?

Anyone try it and it didnt work?

I didnt think so.

I wont argue the science behind why it should or shouldnt work. Fact is it works and everyone I know that has tried it has noticed the effect.


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Cuts

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posted February 21, 2001 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by ironbarbarian:
BUT THE GEAR HAS TO GO TO THE LIVER BEFORE IT IS USED,,,YES THE LIVER, AND THEN IT IS CARRIED AROUND THE BODY IN THE BLOOD...THINK ABOUT IT....

I'm thinking... o.k., why, may I ask, does the gear have to "go to the liver" before it can be "carried around the body in the blood"? That is a completely inaccurate statement. Androgen binding globulin, the protein that binds and transports AS, is constantly present in the blood, and the molecules most definitely DO NOT have to go to the liver first in order to exert their effect. You are wrong.

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quote:
Originally posted by airtyme:
Think about it this way, because the principle is the same. If you cut your foot and need a tetneus shot, due the spot inject? No, the shoot you in the arm or glute because the drug is carried thru the blood strean and targets the specific area. The principle is the same with AS.

The reason you don't take a local tetanus shot is b/c if you did contract tetanus, the Clostridium tetani would already be disseminated throughout your entire bloodstream, so you would need the antidote to penetrate the entire bloodstream too. Bad example. You are wrong too.


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jersey boy

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posted February 21, 2001 06:04 PM

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Increased blood to an area
=extra nutrients
=Increased growth? hmmm

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MP5

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I think site injection probably does slightly help the surrounding areas cells. My friend hit his dealts with his shots and they did grow more than normal. How does one measure his ass anyhow? Cannot put a tape on your ass like you can with your bis.

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Saizen

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posted February 21, 2001 06:53 PM

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I inject my bis and tris but after years of doing so the growth isn't there. When I first experienced the "pleasure" of injecting these muscles, it seemed to have a local effect, that's because the muscles had never been injected before thus the muscle was subjected to foreign chemicals and reacted accordingly...expension. In reality it doesn't grow. The only product that I know -from experience- that boost local site injections is Formebolone -esiclene- it's an inflamitory agent and although it is temporary it sure does put a few inches where every you place that dart.


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lomaximo

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Cuts: Yeah, I am doing the same, injecting into the "highest" part of the peak.....Mr Lucky: I think site injections due cause a pump that is NOT all mental. If not for the simple fact of more fluid from injection in the muscle. Also, you mentioned soemthing about it not being true because then your ass and quads would be huge. Well, I swear my ass is bigger from injections, and I have a buddy who injects sust into his outer thigh and he has overdevelopment there compared to his innner......not saying this is the cause but I think there is more to site injections than just "myth"

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