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 HGH - nr. 1!
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Novice 
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For several reasons HGH doesn't appear that common in cycles (very expensive, most effective whilst simultaneously using insulin, T3 and AS, uncertain dosages, and more) yet using a minimum dosage of 2-4 I.U./ed/16 weeks would give a reasonable increase in musclecells AND a decrease of bodyfat whilst using it. Also, the possible side effects would be minimal because of the low dosage. Add to that a higher metabolism after the cycle because of more musclegrowth and it all sounds very good! I know this is a controversial compound because of all the uncertanties connected to it but I was just curious to why I seldom see it incorporated in cycles? Let me rephrase that question: would you, if you could get hold of it, incorporate HGH in your cycle? Crom    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 593 |
No, no, and no. I can aford it but I will not even consider GH until I finish researching all its effects. (In about 3-4 months). I really don't want increased bone growth. Can we say square jaw? Not to mention the fact that you'd have Godspeed [This message has been edited by Fonz (edited February 21, 2001).]  | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 40 |
There has been a lot of controversy around GH and its effectiveness. While one athlete may make tremendous strides toward his goal, another may see practically no improvement at all. This is easily explained. Because GH is dosage-dependent, often times an athlete doesn't use enough, long enough. A sufficient dose of GH can cost around $150-$170 per day and a common black market price is around $20-$30 per I.U. making GH possibly the most expensive supplement. Another misconception is that GH by itself is the answer. GH by itself is practically useless. The real problem isn't a lack of GH secretion but a lack of GH conversion in the liver. There are two other hormones that are needed for maximum anabolic effect; insulin, and Cytomel or other LT-3 thyroid hormone. This can be further enhanced by the supplementation of other anticatabolic drugs such as steroids, Clenbuterol, or an ephedrine based supplement. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 76 |
other anticatabolic meaning cytadren | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 276 |
@ $600 for an 126 IU kit then on 4IU's / day for 16 wks costs $$$$$$. I would rather use 1000mgs of test for 8 wks which costs breakfast compared to gh and will also provide you with many of the positive effects of GH use. | ||
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Novice
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O.k., thanks for your opinions so far. It seems MRLUCKY's post is a cut and paste-job from a steroid profile on HGH, wich is of course informative, but I was also looking for first hand information - somebody who actually tried it! Fonz, you say not until you know more. I respect that - sensible man;-) There is one thing though that ONLY HGH does that you don't get from any AS (Solid Steele - I think it was), and that is an increase in the number of musclecells. AS only increases the size of the muscles - not the amount! As you all can read on the profile for HGH on any site, is the fact that so called "gigantism" only occurs in adolescents (is that the word? - english isn't my main language! I mean people who have not yet reached maturity and are still groing). Once you are fully grown, sure, ONE possible side effect is the elongation of spesific bones in your body, but then we would be talking of YEARS of HGH injections at high dosages coupled with insulin/T3/AS and more. Even doctors can subscribe doses at e.g. 2 I.U./ed for elder people, so as in the case of AS I think it's all a matter of moderation and taking the "safest" possible dose. As long as you don't have the attitude: "the more, the better!", most compounds are useable. Who would ever have thought that DNP would be of any use for BB's and that's one heck of a dangerous drug!! Keep the comments coming if you have 'em;-) Crom | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 977 |
Very good post guys. Lets keep this up top for more answers and opinions. Im starting my first GH cycle beginning May 1st, and will probably start at 2-4 iu's and will not go higher then 6iu's on any given day. Ill be taking GH from May-September, so approximately 24 weeks. I will be doing 2 cycles, 10 weeks each, and in the middle i will bridge with anavar or primo for 4 weeks. The first cycle will be more for cutting, and gaining lean mass, and the second will be a mass cycle. Yeah, this is a lot of cash, and i am praying that i will have enough funds to cover this insance cycle, but i think it will be worth it. I will probably only do GH a few times in my life. I say that now, but who knows.  Im only 21, and i have alot of growing to do, but a lot of learning to do on the way too. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 977 |
Very good post guys. Lets keep this up top for more answers and opinions. Im starting my first GH cycle beginning May 1st, and will probably start at 2-4 iu's and will not go higher then 6iu's on any given day. Ill be taking GH from May-September, so approximately 24 weeks. I will be doing 2 cycles, 10 weeks each, and in the middle i will bridge with anavar or primo for 4 weeks. The first cycle will be more for cutting, and gaining lean mass, and the second will be a mass cycle. Yeah, this is a lot of cash, and i am praying that i will have enough funds to cover this insane cycle, but i think it will be worth it. I will probably only do GH a few times in my life. I say that now, but who knows. Im only 21, and i have alot of growing to do, but a lot of learning to do on the way too. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
I'D TAKE IT IN 1 SECOND, FLAT. A GUY I KNOW SPENDS ALL HIS PROFITS ON IT AND HE'S RIPPED YEAR ROUND. I'VE KNOWN THE GUY FOR YEARS AND HE LOOKS BETTER EVERY TIME I SEE HIM. HE TAKES HGH, DECCA, T3, AND SLIN. ITS GOOD SHIT. ------------------ GOT CINDY? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
That hurts CCRom. Actually, we just got done discussing HGH in my pharmacology/toxiclogy class. I was sharing the info that I knew. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1130 |
GH along with IGF-1 insulin and T3 is the best way to gain and obtain LBM | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 593 |
No offense rainhorn, but do you know how expensive IGF-1 is? My source quote me a price, and I almost fainted....LOL No seriously, it is MUCH more expensive then GH. Definately a Pro's only drug..... unless you happen to have about $8000 lying around. Godspeed | ||
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Novice
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No offense, MRLUCKY, it just looked a bit like what I read earlier, but the info is ALL very simular wherever you read it. Hardcore4Evr, I like your plans:-) I am also planning a HGH-cycle, but will be playing it extremely safe in regards to the dosage. I will be taking only 2 I.U./ed for 16 weeks together with some AS (not sure what yet). As I said earlier I don't want to start messing with insulin, IGF-1, T3 or the likes - just keeping it simple, but effective. I know of several who have taken this dose together with AS and, in my opinion, received GOOD results! Another thing is, as you mentioned Hardcore4Evr, that it'll cause havoc on bankaccounts so there's another reason for keeping it "simple". Crom | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 810 |
I've been saving for the last year for the six month cycle of Gh I'm starting in a couple of weeks. Using it with insulin, t3 for first five weeks then with test,deca,dbol for ten weeks. I'm betting one years worth of work that it's worth it. We'll see. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1130 |
the reason why IGF-1 is expensive is because that its not been manufactored commercaly its cos-production is not more than of the GH |
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posted February 21, 2001 04:59 AM