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 Started the Tren today....Started out with 200mgs...mean, panerai,Huck
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Hey fellas i can't get the money for winny to stack with it so i am going to do the tren for 13 days. Shot 200mgs today and i will shoot 100 tommorow. How should i go with the Tren alone for the rest of the cycle. I felt the tren today at the gym sooo much. My nose began to bleed very bad also. Is this too high a dosage to run? or should i stick to it and hit it hard for 2 weeks? Part 2 of the Q---Can i do the tren while i take an antibiotic (Bioxin)? ------------------     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I think that your nose let you know that 200mg is too much.And,that's what I told you yesterday-doesn't make sense to front load fast acting steroids,it's asking for trouble.How often do you hear people front loading dbol or,better example Anadrol or Suspension. I would take day off from injection tomorrow,and then day after continue with 100mg/day. That sound a little against what I just said,but I would try to add some dbol,20-25mg/day and see how you can handle it.If you can,it will make big difference in results. Also,let me share small thing that works well for me,to protect kidneys.Watermelon! Half a day will make you piss like a fountain,but it's so good for filtering kidneys! Give it a try! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
I don't know about antibiotic. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Why front load fast acting drugs? Well, why front load Clomid post cycle? To get an immediate theraputic response. Some people handle different amounts of drugs different, personally, 300mgs a day dosen't bother me adversely, but others have trouble with 75mgs EOD. It's independant. I do not see a reason to skip tomarrows injection being that the dosage will be lower. If you run into problems again, then bump it down to 50mgs, but don't eliminate it....that will be a waste of time and money. Good Luck. (Inexpensive winny = PaperStrol) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
Heheheh...Cmon,MeanOne,you should know better then give that example.Clomid's half life is 5 days,of course,you can call it fast acting,but it's not in terms we are talking about here. You really like to argue,ain't you? hehe...  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
Oh,yeah,speaking of immediate therapetic response.What you said is actually proving my point,because with fast acting steroids one gets immediate therapetic response practically immediately,so no need for frontloading,right? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 723 |
Pan. and mean one thanks. I will do what i think i can handle, I think i CAN HANDLE 100 TOMMOROW. I want to go high because i don't have anything else to stack with. I can get propinate but it's brovel 100. Should i get it or not? I am not looking for a lot of mass. Just hardness and a little swell to the muscle with cuts from my diet. I am doing this because i have pics to take. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Also, can i maybe shoot 50 then 100 then 50 then 100 then 50 ect. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
I heard that T100 is really enanthate.If it's the case,you can't really use it.Unless,you want to frontload it now,while you still have some time ahead of you.T50 would work well. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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IMO,it's better to keep constant level of the drug in bloodstream.Those jumps up and down will do more harm then benefit.For such a short cycle,100mg/day is fine. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Me argue, never, lol. Okay, so let's just say, that with my 18 months of past experience of short cycling, and with the standard of knowledge that I hold, I could be mistaken about the theory. First of all T100 is Propinate, plain and simple. Tested at 78 mgs per mL by an independant lab when averaged over 10 mL's. I had this done for myself, personally, and hold the lab documents concerning it, so I know it's true. Secondly, yes I front load Anadrol when short cycling, with great results too. In order for short cycles to be effect you need IMMEDIATE and DRAMATIC effect from day one, because you only have 13 days after that to get what you need to out of it. For this reason you hit the dosages hard, particularly on day one. Short or longer acting-short acting chemical. It's a personal decision, I gave advise based on what I would do if in HIS situation. If I gave a wrong answer, then I would have f'ed myself up too, however, I have yet hurt myself with drugs... He was asking what we thought he should do, we told him, if you don't agree with that, it's called an opinion - we all have them. I respect yours, I don't agree with it based on hard data and experience, but I respect it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Would the T 100 bloat me at all. I am drinking 1gallon and a half a water each day. And eating a low amount of carbs 70 grams. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Do you really think winny is needed in a tren cycle?? I am starting as soon as I come off the stupid Accutane. I was planning on doing prop, but fuck Brovel. So now I am doing Aratest@1000, Tren@100EOD, Eq@600 and maybe some oral, like Anavar or something. I am not sure about the oral yet. I have read that winny may be needed with tren. What has everyone else done??? It was suppose to suppress progesterone gyno, but then I also heard that at 100EOD that would not be a problem. What should I do. I have used winny before and for the money it is not worth it!! I really gained nothing. It kept me hard but not really noticeable. How long should I run the tren. The aratest and eq are going for 10 weeks. I have heard that is too long for tren. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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If T100 is really Propionate, with the amount of Fina,that you are taking,it shouldn't bloat you at all.You can mix them in the same syringe. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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thanks panerai. Hey dahmer am i missing something here. I remember reading in anabolics 2000 that tren doesn't cause gyno. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
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It does not AROMITIZE.BUT-it can activate the progesterone receptor like deca,although it is much less pronounced in doing so...Keep us updated on your results,I.S... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I will Huck..wish me luck on this This is the most excited i have ever been! ------------------ ~~~~~~~In order to look UNIQUE.....you have to eat UNIQUE.~~~~~~~ [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited February 21, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: I T I S P R O P I N A T E ! ! ! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Should i start Nizoral yet? Can i buy this over the counter at a local drug store? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Damn Huck, please don't say that tren is anything like deca when causing gyno, because if that is the case, then im gonna go ahead and make my plastic surgery appointment for gyno surgery! haha! ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Tren is like Deca in that sense,but,unlike Deca it's short acting,so you can always drop it,and get out like a man,not transexual,hehe... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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i thought that parabolon average dosages were like 78 to 156 mg a week. what is with this 100mg eod? | ||
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Novice 
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I'm pretty sure that Parabolan was MUCH stronger than Fina...it's a different chemical structure I think...wish we could still get the old Para!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: are you telling me that they don't sell it anymore or make it anymore? | ||
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Freak
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I would suggest getting you Blood pressure tested evey couple of days. You will have high blood pressure at this dosage. If you don't check it you can judge it by the blood running out of you nose when you squat. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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If a compound has the same chemical name in several products, IT WILL BE THE SAME DRUG 98% of the time. If I could find out the molecular weight of the tren found in finaplix then I could tell you for sure. However, I believe they are the exact same drug. The average effective dose of the old parabolan products found was 156-232mgs, injected twice or three times, weekly. However, I have never experienced negative effects at high dosages, but everyone is different. Just to get back to the piont, I beleive they are the EXACT SAME ACTIVE COMPOUND. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I think the only difference was in half life.Parabolan was longer acting,I don't know how much longer,but may be some of older guys who actually used it can tell us. And I suspect,that because of Negma's better technology,compare to our kitchens,Parabolan's bioavailability and bioequivalence were a way higher,then Fina's.And that makes a big difference! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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yea you can get nizoral over the counter at wal-mart , but they do have a prescription nizoral also if you can get it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hey fellas, should i take clomid eod during the 2 week cycle or just after. Also, don't 2 week cycles mean no natural test disruption. If not then whats the point? ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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Your hypothalamus will be inhibited,but your pituitary will still be pumping out the LH,which is the key hormone in endogenous T production.And the hypo recovers fairly rapidly,where the pituitary does not,that's why we keep the cycle short enough to save P function...Take the clomid a day or two after your last injection... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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why did they stop making parabolon and when did they stop? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I shot 200mgs yesterday and boy I felt it at the gym today!! God I was way stronger. I dont know if its all mental or what but shit I felt strong as hell. I was doing the row machine and did the whole stack with 1 arm 12 reps per arm while everyone just looked. Did bb rows with 365 for 10. God I felt great! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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You can get Nizarol 2% from hair2go.com or lifestylepharmacy.com. The stuff over the counter is 1%. So the consenus is to front load tren. For how long. And I really don't think that T-100 is prop. Prop doesn't really hurt me, but it lets me know it is there. T-100 does nothing. maybe it's mental, but I think it is not Prop! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Here, this is what i have done so far, DAY 1- 200MGS TREN NOW, I have to say that my strength has stood the same even though i have cut almost all carbs! I defiitely "feel" the tren from america.....there is nothing like it and i KNOW IT'S NOT MENTAL. BUT, When i shoot the prop it did DOES NOT STING AT ALL WHICH WORRY'S ME. But heres the sides i've had the past 24 hours: Nosebleeds, a 12 hour headache that i still have NOW, very upset stomach with a diminshed appetite (never happens to me), severe nausea, and wierd "shaky feeling" down my my stomach area. 2 Q's for you. Question 1- Should i continue dosing(because of my symptoms) and at what dosage should i lower the tren to per day? ------------------ [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited February 22, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Some T100 might be prop...but not all was..I have seen tests, not to mention several personal experiences, that showed it was definetly enthanate... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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quote: BROVEL T-50 DIDN'T BURN. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Big johnson....that pic looks like me after i threw up today ------------------ |
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posted February 21, 2001 01:34 AM