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 Bridging Technique: Dianabol use without H-P-T-A supression.
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1211 |
I came across an interesting conversation the other day pertaining to some of the "off-cycle" strategies employed by various competitive athletes. We were discussing a "bridging" technique for lack of a better word that has become rather popular within the bodybuilding community based in part on the science behind the use of testosterone precursors e.g. "Androsteindione". We all realize the role the introduction of steroids play in promoting a desired state of anabolism. We realize that these products relative to volume and time one can promote outstanding increases in LBM. However, at what cost? Obviously users of anabolic steroids can potentially experience a host of unwelcome side effects including the invariable suppression of H-P-T-A function. Consider this, the role of testosterone precursors is to promote a temporary increase in serum testosterone levels. These products, assuming their method of chemical delivery is sound and that their use is timed properly can be an effective tool in the increase of LBM. Even more effective are the properly timed use of very low dose oral Alkylated steroids taken 1-2 hours before training. Logically the 17-aa group is considered toxic given their design relative to the volume ingested. Therefore, I�m not suggesting 15-50mg of dianabol ED as a "bridge" or off cycle tool. I simply submit to you that the introduction of as little as 5mg of dianabol or 10-15mg of Anavar taken 1-2 hours before training would promote a temporary elevate blood androgen levels which would ideally peak perfectly with post workout meals and/or the introduction of insulin. Such doses even done on training days would not suppress H-P-T-A function and like Androsteindione illicit a desired temporary anabolic state at the most opportune time during the off athletes day...POST WORKOUT. ------------------     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 318 |
That is interesting but you said dbol but ended up talking about anavar since it the better choice (which has little effect on HPTA function). The dbol at 5mg could be helpful though. I have heard guys on the Varix speak about using 5-15mg of dianabol per day for many week on a pyramid to get great long term (albeit slow) gains. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1704 |
I believe if taken all at once, even at a dose of 20 to 25mg, you will be fine. Its out of the system fast, which gives the hpta time to keep working. If you were to spread the dose out, it wouldnt be a good bridge choice. Again if taken all at once, it shouldnt shut down your natural test production. Who wants to be the test subject?? ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 102 |
it is strange I was only thinking this morning of a technique like this. I was thinking two weeks of 50mg dianabol spread out through the day then drop back to just a morning dose of say 25mg for 1-2 weeks then back up to full dosing schedule all the while stcking a steady rate of non inhibitory anabolic such as primobolan. I wonder if this would work well in real life i might just try it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 273 |
quote: Considering its half life if you take higher doses all at once it still has the possibility of shutting down HPTA or perhaps not shutting down but very much slowing it down. Just for an example if you take 50mgs all at once because of its half life you will still have 25mgs active inside you after 4 hours and so on and so on. Now it is unlikely at 20-25mgs that HPTA will be shut down but still it would be effected. Anavar would make for a much better bridge because it can be used at higher doses without having impact on HPTA. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 468 |
RIGHT NOW IM BETWEEN CYCLES (BULKING AND CUT) ITS BEEN A MONTH SINCE I HAVE TOUCHED ANYTHING, CAN I TAKE A TAB OR 2 OF DBOL BEFORE I WORK OUT FOR THE NEXT 4-6 WEEKS. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 687 |
What about tapering out with low dbol doses at the end of a cycle until the HPTA function returns? Could this work w/o clomid? | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1938 |
quote: Quite simply No. It would not be able to replace clomid. Once you have fully restored HPTA only then should you consider bridging unless of course using something that does have an impact on HPTA. The reason and a good one too is because your test levels are low from your cycle, in order to keep gains you need to try and re-start this natural test production as soon as the last steroid administered starts falling below a relatively low level. By taking dbol in the way suggested you will prevent natural test shut down (once back to normal) but you will not re start test production as rapidly as needed. It would take a long time to get natural test back on track after a long cycle. Far too long in fact to keep the majority of the gains made while on. You need something to quickly elevate natural test production and once done then you can use the dbol in a way that will only minimally effect natural test production. Anavar makes for much better sense though IMO. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 792 |
What would the effect be on H-P-T-A if one were to take 25mg of dbol a day...only on the days they worked out? Say 3...maybe 4 days a week? B True | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1704 |
As I said above, no higher than 20 to 25mg all at once on training days only would be a fine bridge. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." |
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posted February 20, 2001 11:41 PM