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| Author | Topic: ORAL PRIMO VS PRIMO DEPOT | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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i have acces to both, but the oral is cheaper. what is the daily intake of the oral that equals to 300 mg/week of the depot? (how much a day to have the same results). anyway in your expirience, with an appropriate dose can the effectivness of the oral be compared to the one of the depot? thanks for the help    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 58 |
From what I read the oral primo is pretty shitty. I'm also interested though so I'll bump it.  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 96 |
Would also like to know! What are the daily dosages for ORAL PRIMO? Thankx | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
To take the optimum amount of oral primo acetate would not be advisable. Most people use the oral along with other gear in a pre-contest stack at about 200-600mg per week. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 407 |
why wouldn't it be advisable? Money? Health?else? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
It is expensive and bad for your liver if taken for long periods at high dosages b/c of the 17AA structure. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Freak 
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I didn't think primo in the tab form was a 17aa.... ------------------ I GET MAD!!!!!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
Here it is in French: Identification de la substance Ensemble des d�nominations ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 536 |
Oral primo is not 17aa. Its not dangerous to your liver at all. What tabs do you have? 5mg or 25mg? 25mg tabs are very expansive in my country. [This message has been edited by Retabolil2 (edited February 21, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 40 |
About 150-200mgs oral is the same as Inject. Most all products will be more effective when injected. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1108 |
1(5a)-ANDROSTEN-1- METHYL-17b- OL-3-ONE ACETATE is the correct chemical name. It is not 17aa. | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1939 |
Sorry but I felt like contributing, oral primo is not aa17 and is not nearly as effective as the injection. There is no comparison between the two. It is not possible to say 100mgs of injectable = 230mgs of oral or whatever. It just cannot be done. As Statechamp said it can be used in addition to a stack but dont make it one of your base steroids. It is similar to andriol in its effectiveness. I assume anyone who uses oral primo can benefit much from the placebo effect attributed to being on but not from much increase in protein synthesis. In order to make it in anyway effective you would need to take at least 50mgs/day spread out into as many smaller doses as possible. Much will get broken down. For those who dont know I have had to stop my cycle due to the deca which caused the onset of gyno. I am taking 3 wks off on dnp and am then hitting it again in a different method once the eq arrives. I was going to add in oral primo but it is not so cost effective and have been advised against it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 593 |
Good post Iron Game, but I'm going to have to disagree with you in the dosage. I toyed with primo for 2 years, and anything less than 60mg/day is a complete waste....100mg/d was an effective dose during my case at a bodyweight of 92Kg. The one concern about the tabs is the bloody cost.Think about it, $800 for 1000 5mg tabs is VERY expensive, and they would only last you for 1000/(20tabs/day)=50d, so 7 weeks. Go buy some primo depot, much cheaper at $12 an amp. Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 516 |
Hey Fonz, $800 for 1000 5mg tabs is high... twice cheaper would be better - you just need to find the right person  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 593 |
Vovan....LOL Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
If your a first timer to gear 250mg p day spaced through the day will make a difference if your taking it with protein EVERY 4 hours acetate is basically a cutting drug, it seems to burn fat....you might want to opt to crush it in to powder, mix it with DMSO and apply to fatty areas if your dieting. Also crushing the tablets into fine powder and mixing with warm vit. E oil will bypass the portal vein hence the liver on the first pass making it considerably more effective (see Andriol method). The DMSO version also skips the liver on the first pass and makes it more effective...but remember you must administer every 4 hours w protein minimum! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 593 |
Astral Fitness, 250mg per day??!!! Did I read that right? Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 273 |
quote: I question all views shared by you on the basis of that statement alone. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
cutting drug meaning fairly inneffective for building, marginally effective for preservation. If the kids fresh receptorwise w good genes a small bit will work but a product like Nortestin or Norabol a "pro-hormone" might be more effective [This message has been edited by ASTRAL FITNESS (edited February 21, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
ps you should question everything and do your own research. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
Fonz I meant minimum of 250 per week...assuming he is blessed by optimum genes...but for most they would dry up on this dose of primobolan acetate which is pretty void of water retention. 250 a day would obviously work better as the stuff is metabolized in a flash (non alpha alkylated)A dose for a pro woman would probably begin in the 50-100mg day range. Optimally as a final word even for a beginner this should be combined with something more androgenic ie for competition winstrol or masteron and oxandrolone thrown in your looking at mr. or ms. rock solid. too bad for you primo isnt avail. from France in the 50mg oral or 20mg inject anymore...stay away if ya find it cause its fake or expired [This message has been edited by ASTRAL FITNESS (edited February 22, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Acetate is an ester...Not a drug. That's why the validity of your statements are in question. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
Okay I was mistaken about the 17AA. Thanks for the correction fellows. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1129 |
primo depot | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
Iron_Game correct about the primo tabs. Beat me to it. U seem very informed when it comes to AAS. Lates.
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 407 |
well thanks guys, but the tabs are cheaper than the inj here.i want to use them at the end of my cycle to cut while starting the clomid therapy. I was palnning to diet taking clen and 75 mgs/day of oral primo for 3 weeks, along with the clomid. Will this be enough to preserve lean mass? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 343 |
Oral Primobolan contains the drug methenolone acetate. Regardless of the ester, methenolone is a very mild anabloic steriod. Primo is not 17 alpha alkylated as most oral steroids are. Due to the absence of such an alternation,this compound is one of the few commercially produced oral steroids that is not stressful to the liver. Unfortunately the 1 alkylation and 17-beta esterification of Primo do not protect the compound very well during first pass however, so much of your initial dose will not make circulation. This is why you need such high daily dose with the oral version of Primo. Dosage for men is somewhere in the range of 75-150mg daily. This can become tedious and costly when one can only obtain the 5mg tablets. During a cutting or dieting phase, thought to be it's primary application, a non-aromatizing androgen like Halotestin, Masteron or Parabolan can be added to enhance the physique without water retention, and help bring out a harder more defined look. So a lower dose of Primo when stacking is advisable. Currently the 5mg tabs can be trusted from Europe, Mexico and S. America. 25mg are still manufactured in Europe. There are no 50mg tabs, if there are, they are FAKE. This was on page 148,149, 150 of Anabolics 2000. [This message has been edited by jocko (edited February 21, 2001).] |
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posted February 20, 2001 07:44 PM
