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FOZY

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posted February 20, 2001 06:34 PM

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about to start a cycle........

5'8 190 13-15%BF


WKS 1-8 500mg of test
wk 9 300mg of Test
wk 10 150mg

Wks 5-9 300mg Primobolen
wk 10 200mg Primobolen

clomid routine at the end......

As far as the test goes I have 1 bottle of 10ml 300mg/ml cyp from IP and a bottle of Tornell T-200 ( minus 2ml from my last cycle) I am planning on using the cyp and eth in one shot. When I have to spit injections up due to the primo I will do cyp one day and the eth on the other.

I am going to taper no mater what. I found when I taper I don't really crash as hard.

The primo is where i nead the help......I could dose it for 8 weeks @ 200mg ??????
I just can't seam to find the best place for it. I have never used Primo before so I really don't know what to expect or where it goes best in a cycle.

I originally wanted to do primo only for 8 weeks with clen to cut down on some BF but since I have the test I figured why not try to get a little bigger. I have read the primo at 200mg is useless..I don't want to waste a perfectly good drug.

Thanks for the help

foz


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timac

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posted February 20, 2001 06:38 PM

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at least 400mg of primo to see results


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Statechamp

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The primo is a great gar to use in a bulking cycle because it helps with hardening and protein synthesis without messing with your natural test and without any water retention.

Using it at 200 will be fine since you are stacking the test with it. If you want to use it for 6 weeks then go like this...300, 300, 300, 300, 200, 200.

Your cycle looks strong.

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Adonis

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posted February 20, 2001 06:40 PM

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yep, Im with Timac, use 400mg a week on the primo, you will be much happier with the results, also I wouldnt taper anything, unless your dead set on the taper factor.


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Hinder

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posted February 20, 2001 06:44 PM

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Statechamp is right...you are going to be stacking the Primobolan depot so why would you up the dosage. That would not make any sense and it would be overkill.


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FOZY

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posted February 20, 2001 06:47 PM

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thanks for the quick reply

State champ...thats how I have it. Is where I placed it the best place to run it or should I run it past the test???? Actually I have it as 300,300,300,300,300,200 I have 17 amps on hand


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timac

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posted February 20, 2001 06:49 PM

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oh, I didn't read right, thought you were using after the cyp. if stacking together that is fine.


but 400 would be nice.


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Statechamp

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It would fit in nicely if it started 3 weeks before you end the of the test and went 3 weeks post cycle. That way you can take advantage of its properties to harden and get vascular as the water retention goes away.

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FOZY

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posted February 20, 2001 06:57 PM

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so how does this look

Test
wk 1-7 500mg wk 8 300mg wk 9 150mg

Primo
wk 7-11 300mg wk 12 200mg


or

Test
wk 1-7 500mg wk 8 300mg wk 9 150mg

Primo
wk 5-12 200mg


[This message has been edited by FOZY (edited February 20, 2001).]


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Statechamp

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posted February 20, 2001 07:00 PM

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The first option will help you gain a little more LBM.

The second option will help more with hardness, vascularity and holding on to gains.

If you are happy with your gains by week 5 then use 200mg for 8 weeks but go for option 1 if you want slightly more mass.

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