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ORGANON CANON

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posted February 20, 2001 11:43 AM

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I am about half way through my bulk cycle now and doing great, and soon I am starting my cutting cycle.

My bulking cycle is:
sust-1000mg week 1-6
sust 750 week 7-8
primo 400 all 8 weeks
d-bol 30mg first 6 weeks

My cutting cycle will be:
sust 500mg 8 weeks
primo 400mg 8 weeks
winny 50mg ed
fina 75mg eod last 6 weeks

My question is could I just start my cutting cycle at the end of my bulk (no break) without screwing my natural test levels that bad? I have tons of clomid, arimidex, nolvadex, proscar, cytomel, and clenbuterol. I have been using the arimi, and plan on using the t3/clen during the cuting cycle. Should I give myself a rest or what? I have a buddy who did a long cycle and lost all of his gains after.


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Mimbrate1

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posted February 20, 2001 12:24 PM

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Ok guys, flame me out of existance at this point. I will take the risk.
Cannon- hate to sound like an advertisement or something but have you read "The Stack" by Borresen? I believe it's the last chapter that outlines "The Voyager Stack". If you can get ahold of the book, read it for this chapter if nothing else. You may be in a great position to initiate this stack/theory if you are willing to reconsider your cutting cycle as a catabolic state inducing period instead. From there you grow like never before and then cut up 25-30 days later. I have wanted to try this for a while now myself but haven't been in a position to do it. I truly believe you could make serious progress from this theory (maybe not the same dosages. these should be adjusted as per experience). mail me if you wish to throw around some ideas.


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BigMack

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posted February 20, 2001 01:05 PM

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Personally i would give my body a chance to recuperate and level off before going straight on the next cycle. Why would you be using sust in the cutting cycle? If you do decide to do them one after the other why would you use more sust, wouldnt there be a lot of it still active in the body at that point? In my opinion Fina and winny should be fine, unless you have a competition coming up soon, but definantly give your body a rest for a few weeks in between.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 20, 2001 02:27 PM

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I WOULD WAIT A LITTLE WHILE AFTER MY BULKING CYCLE IS OVER TO START THE CUTING STACK BECAUSE YOUR BODY HAS TO ADJUST(SP) TO THE NEW MUSCLE YOU HAVE PUT ON. YOU COULD ALWAYS BRIDGE WITH PRIMO OR ANAVAR TILL YOUR CUTING PHASE. HOPE THIS HELPS, GOOD LUCK

M18


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Daeo

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posted February 20, 2001 02:46 PM

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I'd wait 4 weeks at least before starting your cutting cycle. 16 weeks on sounds like a long time to be on. And with the longer acting esters such as sust in your system it will be more like you're on for 18-19 weeks straight. Although there are some people who choose to stay on extended periods of time though and seem to get away with it...

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Beezers

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posted February 20, 2001 03:12 PM

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It's not really the length of time your on gear that is the factor. The main factor is your nerves and muscles need a rest. They will respond much better if they are fully recuiperated. An intense cycle puts a beating on the muscles and nervous system and the only thing that can fully heal both of them is time and rest. I would take two weeks off post bulking cycle. Continue to eat properly but only slowly reduce calories during this time. No training. Your muscles will heal and be ready for another round of intense training and you will have eased into restricted calories.


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ORGANON CANON

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posted February 20, 2001 05:19 PM

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Thanks for the input guy's!

BIG MACK- I am using sust in the cycle to preserve muscle, I am about 240lbs now and it takes some test to preserve me. The sust from the bulking cycle would only carry 2 weeks into my cutting cycle so I need more.

I think I am going to go with beezers, that was what I had already been considering. It is just that I have to be done all my juice by June 21, because I have a show.


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Statechamp

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posted February 20, 2001 05:22 PM

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Like a guy said before, 4 week's rest is a good idea. You might want to use PGF2 for those 4 weeks because it is rumored to help clean your receptors.

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