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Mrfox2000

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posted February 20, 2001 05:32 AM

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I'm just curious. Anyone done t3 at 12,5mcg in a high protein cutting diet without any steroids? Did U loose any muscles at all? I've seen lots of posts where people are saying that T3 shouldn't be done with out some type of AAS. But they all talk about doses from 25mcg and above that. So what about 12,5mcg? There should be very little sides at that dosage, and therefor you should be able to be "on" for a longer period, and therefor make the same resultas as when on a higher dosage. So, anyone done a cycle with t3 at 12,5mcg, without any type of aas?


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aahepp

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posted February 20, 2001 07:46 AM

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Well can't really answer your question at the dosage. But I have been on T3 at 25mcg for going on 3 months now. And all the time I was not on AS. Muscle mass did not decrease at the time, or if it was it was a little amount. Low doses of T3 while on AS is good for your body in a sense. Which htis brings up a question that some could never find an answer to. T3 at low doses say 25mcg. Does it shut down natural thyroid production, or just add to it. Granted higher doses tend to shut it down. But does the lower do the same. There was an article that was around some time ago saying you could be on low doses for extended periods of time with no ill affects, which leads me to the theory that lower doses add to natural T3 production.


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Amp

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posted February 20, 2001 07:58 AM

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I was using Triax (Tiratricol) 3 times a day for 3 weeks and a blood test showed I had very low TSH levels. The stuff practically shut my thyroid down. I stopped using Triax and started using 25mcg of T3 a day. 4 weeks later I had another blood test and my TSH levels were back to normal. So on 25mcg a day my thyroid levels were actually able to recover to normal levels so I don't believe that 25mcg is a big enough dose to really negatively affect you as long as you don't do it too too long.


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Fonz

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posted February 20, 2001 08:25 AM

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I believe Bill Roberts was the first
advocate for using 12.5mcgs T3
a day. First one must take into
consideration that 25mcgs is a full
replacement dose.. 25mcgs will
not shutdown TSH to a very
high degree, but for safety's sake
I would not recommend going past
10 weks at this dose. Your
body might come dependent on it.
Now, 12.5mcgs has very interesting
applications. It is a low enough dose
that it can be used for periods of 6
months without adversely affecting the
thyroid. At this dosage, protein
synthesis+fat breakdown is increased.
At this dosage one could lose 3lbs of fat
a week while dieting quite easily.
As a note most people have underactive
thyroids(hypothyroidic)(one in three women
are affected by this), 12.5mcgs a day will
increase the efficiency of the thyroid to
optimal levels.

Godspeed


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aky

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posted February 20, 2001 08:25 AM

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at those dosses T3 does not work for fat loss.. i think the min doss would be 50mcg and anything under that will do something with enhancing your protein syn... not to user about this part but use the search and find out... there's lots of info on it... but dont use it w/o an AAS!

aky

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avenger

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posted February 20, 2001 08:43 AM

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yes I have used it at low dosages and blood tests showed a supplementation to my thyroid oppossed to it slowing down...


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Mrfox2000

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posted February 20, 2001 08:59 AM

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Fonz: So do U think that AAS is needed at that low dosage? Was Bill Roberts "on" gear, when he did this "experiment"?


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aahepp

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posted February 20, 2001 09:05 AM

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aky. I have done it both ways. While on and while off. At 25mcg I did not lose any muscle mass that I could notice. If I did it was little. As far as fat buring. I was reacting well to the 25mcg a day. Body temp was up a great deal and BF% drop nicley while on a good diet. Some people might need 50 becasue thyroid is not producing much T3. But I guess with mine the natural plus the added synthetic was working well together.


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Mrfox2000

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posted February 20, 2001 10:03 AM

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aahepp: So U did 25mcg off? No gear at all?


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aahepp

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posted February 20, 2001 10:24 AM

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Yes I have been on for three months. During these 3 months I was only on gear for 2 of them.


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Thomps9

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posted February 20, 2001 12:57 PM

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What are the sizes of T-3?? Are all the pills 25mcg??


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aahepp

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posted February 20, 2001 12:59 PM

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Normally come in 25mcg. There has been report that some come in 50mcg also. I haven't ever seen 12.5mcg tabs.


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Mrfox2000

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posted February 20, 2001 02:04 PM

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Well I have some 50mcg t3 right here, so they exist alright


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