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KidRock

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posted February 19, 2001 08:02 PM

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I'm going to make this quick. I'm pissed. I'm pissed at all the lack of reapect for bodybuilders....even by their own.
After reading the Ronnie Coleman Cycle post it really upset me. (The replies)
I am and always will be a 6'0" tall 250lb, mesomorphic person. I won several NON-DRUG TESTED NPC SHOWS, including the states 4 years ago. I busted my ass for ten years training to do that. Did'nt go out on weekends, stayed away from partying, and what did I get for it. Ridicule, exactly what most of you did replying to that post.
After I won, and got called a liar for saying I was clean, I decidied to show how clean I was. I started cycling 3 years ago. I am now 310lbs and pretty dam lean, about 13%. I did it using low doses in comparisson to what most of you have said a man my size needs. This past year I placed top 5 in an NPC NATIONAL EVENT!! I will turn pro eventually, and than all of you can scream about how much gear it takes....maybe I am the exception to the rule, but thorugh past experience I have seen many people use juice, some grow phenominally, most do not come close to anything no matter how much they use....all I am saying is that it really pisses me off that I trained all those years to be ridiculed by some of you so called gurus.....people listen to you guys, and your not helping the sport by claiming things you can't prove. Your whole foundation is what you hear, not what you know. Ten years streight I trained before ever using anything! I won my state title without any juice. So anyone who is out there that is willing to listen...I hope you are. I think some of you need a de-tox program...


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superdave

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posted February 19, 2001 08:09 PM

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Thats great that you have combined genetics with hard work. Most of us do not have those genetics and resort to gear, ronnie coleman has most definetly used and continues to use a good amount of drugs because it is very against the bodys homeostasis to carry that much muscle and little fat.

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KidRock

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posted February 19, 2001 08:19 PM

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Thank you Superdave. I really don't care how much Ron uses. What I know for sure is that most of the advice and talk in the gym always ends in a negative note towards the bodybuilder. You can grow without juice!, but with most of the bodybuilders talking so down about each other, how can anyone think that bodybuilding is going to make it. When a newbie asks advice, and a so called guru tells him to take some rediculously high does cycle it's pathetic. Most of these people I meet have never put on an ounce of muscle naturally in their entire life, therefore they have no right to give advice. High dosing may be necessary, but most have probably fuc**d up their growth from juicing way to early. Build a foundation first or the building will crumble. Kind of like a lot of peoples physiques who get off the juice. How would you feel if you played the piano for ten years and mastered it. When you would display your talent people would give you recognition. This is not how it is for the bodybuilder. We train for a decade and have an 18year old punk talk shit right to your face like they know something. The excuse is juice!! Thats why they always say that they can do it too. It's pathetic.


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 19, 2001 08:24 PM

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good job, i'm happy you combined your hard work with your genetics.


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truelinebacker

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posted February 19, 2001 10:11 PM

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most people outside of the sports world use jealosy to fuel thier lack of respect for bodybuilders, i get it even with other people on my football team making excuses for thier own shortcomings


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GenetiKing

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posted February 20, 2001 12:35 AM

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Well put.

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BigJay81

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posted February 20, 2001 12:39 AM

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POLLY WANT A CRACKER???

Nice self promotion their how about some pics to back up your 310lb Body?

I'm sure others would like to see this as well!!!

So your at 13% BF HHMMMMMMM???

Pics? If you don't know how I can help

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Until You Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Rocco

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posted February 20, 2001 12:45 AM

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BigJay, off topic bro, but did you ever get a copy of Pumping Iron???


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Badkins21

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posted February 20, 2001 12:46 AM

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What BigJay said...

I mean no disrespect, but like the other guys have said, MOST people, no matter how hard they train, how clean they eat, how strict they are their lifestlyes, and no matter how much desire they have, won't attain the level of physique that they do desire without gear...

If you want to be the best, you've got to do, what you've got to do...

You proved that by starting to use...

I personally like the cult status bodybuilding has, it makes it more interesting...

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Big Johnson

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posted February 20, 2001 12:49 AM

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I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE PICS, TOO. SHOULD HAVE PLENTY LAYING AROUND, WHAT WITH YOUR STATE TITLE AND ALL. SORRY, I DON'T CLAIM TO BE ANYTHING I'M NOT, BUT I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WILL.

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lawnsaver

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posted February 20, 2001 01:00 AM

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I would like to see pics also. I have to agree with some of it. I think moderate doses will yeild similar results. I took a test eq cycle along with a friend we both had 3 cycle to our credit. He decided to take almost double the doses. I took 500mg of test with 300mg of eq. We both eat similar and train together. He took 1000mg of test with 500mg of eq. When all was said and done, he gained 4lbs more than me. He had a lot more acne and increased blood pressure.

I'm sure many of you will say the higher the better. I will neve go above the 500mg dose with anything. I am sure I will continue to make gains as long as my diet and training and sleep are my top priority.

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BigJay81

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posted February 20, 2001 01:14 AM

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Lets see those Pics "Polly".

Give us a chance to see your greatness!!!

Come on please?

I pissed at people who rant about how big they are and don't prove it with pics.

So lets all be pissed and keep it to ourselves.

BLAH BLAH BALH I AMD 10' Tall Weight 2 tons And carry around A 50lb dick!!!!!!!

All bow down!!!!


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The Ghost

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posted February 20, 2001 08:59 AM

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Big Jay, I'm pissed off too! God damnit, I am close to 7 feet tall and weigh around 812 pounds at .90 bodyfat! I worked my ass off to get to my current size. When I started out, I was 6'8" and 113 pounds. I got all the way up to 700 pounds naturally, so don't tell me that it can't be done! I started taking primo at 100mg every 8 weeks, and 1 tab of dbol every 45 days. I started to pack on the weight after that, so don't tell me I need three grams of test to grow! I'm going to up my dose to 200mg of primo every 6 weeks and my dbol at one tab every 40 days. I'll see you at 1,000 pounds ripped!

-TG


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madmitch

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posted February 20, 2001 10:11 AM

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Hahahahahah you crack me up Ghost.

This Kidrock sounds like Mike Matarazzo, always bitching and complaining when someone even suggests he uses roids.

Mike's favourite "I was 260 lean lb's and a pro before I even touched steroids". what a wanker.

On another post someone said they went to a seminar by a very famous bodybuilder of Arnolds era. This pro bodybuilder said the guys who say they use the least amount of gear are usually the ones who are using it by the barrow load.

I'm fed up with these pricks who claim they are 280 lb's at 0.33 % bodyfat all down to genetics. They must be as thick as pig shit to think that people actually believe them.

There that's my rant in return.


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lomaximo

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posted February 20, 2001 10:18 AM

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Kid Rock,

So what do you consider a low dosage for a cycle? Also, how long do you think a guy should train before he considers using roids?

Lomaximo


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TheCorruptor

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posted February 20, 2001 10:29 AM

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good job gettin big the hard way... i, like many others, don't have the time/genetics to get freakish... wish i did


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Mimbrate1

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posted February 20, 2001 11:50 AM

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Kid- kudos to you for sticking thigs out naturally so long. You are the man but in defense of some of the postings I've seen on the board, not everyone is telling taters to juice right off. I have seen plenty of postings telling yung'uns to eat, train right and juice later if required. Some folks here acknowledge the weight thier postings carry. Don't shun that fact. It is disrespect itself. As far as dealing with 18 year old unexperienced shit-talkers- this is the way of the world. Everyone has their advantages or disadvantages in any area. Just as some are born into money and have (theoretically) more available opportunities, they can be surpassed by those with the will to succeed. Let this bother you for a bit, vent if you must but don't forget you are wasting energy on someone other than yourself.
Badkins- it is hard truth but I agree
Ghost- I want you as a trainer
MadMitch- keep in mind freaks do exist. I know someone who took A-bombs and didn't lose weight after. He also cut fat on a diet of beer and pasta. So damn defiant of the laws of biochem and nutrition it was downright scary.



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The Ghost

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posted February 20, 2001 12:31 PM

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"Ghost- I want you as a trainer"

Great! We can both stuff our faces with 90,000 cals per day, train until veins start exploding for about 20 minutes, and sleep the rest of the day. Who needs a job! We can also start our AS regimine of 1 amp of primo every 8 or 9 weeks, and 1 dbol tab every month or so. That's just a rough estimate. We may not even need that much gear. That's alot of AS!

I have learned alot reading this board as you can tell. Can't wait to train with you! LOL!!

-TG


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Big Johnson

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posted February 20, 2001 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by madmitch:
Hahahahahah you crack me up Ghost.

This Kidrock sounds like Mike Matarazzo, always bitching and complaining when someone even suggests he uses roids.

Mike's favourite "I was 260 lean lb's and a pro before I even touched steroids". what a wanker.

On another post someone said they went to a seminar by a very famous bodybuilder of Arnolds era. This pro bodybuilder said the guys who say they use the least amount of gear are usually the ones who are using it by the barrow load.

I'm fed up with these pricks who claim they are 280 lb's at 0.33 % bodyfat all down to genetics. They must be as thick as pig shit to think that people actually believe them.

There that's my rant in return.


RACK EM

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