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LittleSavage34

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posted February 19, 2001 11:05 AM

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I am ready to shoot 1 CC of each...they seperated out, and it shook me a bit. Can I inject both at the same time safely?


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Slopain

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posted February 19, 2001 11:11 AM

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yes, its a good practice to keep oil and water based seperated, but its not a big deal, I do it eod now with winny/tren.

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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 02:16 PM

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yes you can


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posted February 19, 2001 02:18 PM

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I don't know why people say not to mix oil and water. Sure they don't "mix", but so what? As long as they both get injected, I see no reason for 2 pokes when one will do the job.


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Slopain

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posted February 19, 2001 02:27 PM

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One of the theories (which I actually think does have some valid points) is that some of the water will be absorbed into the oil thus slowing its release and affecting your dosing. Another theory which is bunk in my eyes is that it may cause an abcess. I tend to agree with the firs one but if your using two quick acting drugs like tren/winny I dont think it is as big a deal as if it was enanthate and winny.

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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 02:40 PM

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oil molecule and water molecule can not bind to each other.
its not an oil-water isuue its if the two chimical substaces(when intreduced togther)are reacting to one another or for more acurace has a bio fedbeck to each other


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posted February 19, 2001 02:43 PM

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If you have shot winny and tren together you would see that they do not remain completly seperate, I am aware oil and water don't mix - I do think the oil will slow down the water based anabolic absorbtion rate.

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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 03:01 PM

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you can take a cup of water and drop it into a mixer container take soe oil and drop it into the same container you'll see that they are seperated,now turn on the mixer and youll get a lot of tine drop of oil i the water that is because you dameged the conections in betwin the oil molecuels but notice that they are still seperated.
when you interdouce in in a neddele no relation to the ratio,intermosculre the oil will flow over the water there for there will be a total seperation between the two which two of them will have a surface to absorb into.
the time that the substance will be absorbed and get relesed in the body is only depandable on the substance on stracture.


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Slopain

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posted February 19, 2001 03:09 PM

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Well there ya go. Rainhorn, do you suppose its possible that some of the water based steroid could be engulfed by the oil based, so that the water is inside of it (not absorbed into it) and that water wouldnt get broken down until the oil around it did?

And where are you from, country - if you don't mind me asking.

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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 03:19 PM

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no,because the chimicly prensepole that oil will flow upon water therefor the oil will get absorbed from the upper layer and the waeter from the lower laer, thats because that the substences getting absorbed due to the vacom that is being created so there is no matter to where the substance is being placed.

**********************--musscale tissue
------------------------oily substance
......................--water based substac
**********************--muscale tissue.
try to imageine it in 3 dimentions.


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posted February 19, 2001 03:30 PM

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I cant understand you. If your saying that in your ass it is impossible for a water part to be completely surrounded in oil Im not sure if I completly believe that that isn't possible (like i said Im not positive either way just voicing theories).

WHERE ARE YOU FROM, Country state?

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posted February 19, 2001 03:39 PM

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the water an not sorrouned the oil or otherwise due to specific weight(gravity)the oil will surface thon the water notice that in our case the molecular weight is to the water adventage


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posted February 19, 2001 03:41 PM

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I give up.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 19, 2001 03:45 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Slopain:
I give up.




hehe


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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 04:00 PM

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OH,slopain didnot saw your question is it because my bad spelling and grammer?
English is not the first language here


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posted February 19, 2001 04:05 PM

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Don't worry about it horn, I know that I shoot water and oil based if they are both fast acting, and that I dont if the oil is slow and the water is quick. No big deal, just theory.

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