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Tom smith

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posted February 19, 2001 10:59 AM

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Hi bros ,

I had 200 mg for two weeks of deca.
yes 200 mg only , and i 've developed gyno .

I know this , because my nipples are fucking sore , and when i say sore i mean fucking sore , they feel uncomftable under clothes , and the rest .

I heard winstrol can help .

My doc says , how the hell can an androgenic anabolic combat the side effect of another anabolic ?


Also if proviron and nolva does not help .

what is it gonna happen , am i totally fucked ?

I heard that in the u.k you can get ur 486 OTC , FUCK THAT ..

i asked the chemist , and they looked at me like i was a junkie .

what should i do ?

where can i find something to fuck the progesterone?

my doc says to abort all anabolics .
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to take no clomid
to take nothing at all

and to wait until my body come back to normal

and if gyno developes , after a couple of clean months it will come back to normal,

2 months with gyno ? fuck that , no way

please brothers help me .


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The Juggernaut

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posted February 19, 2001 11:05 AM

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Get some nolvadex asap. Dont touch it or irritate your nipples. Gyno from my knowledge doesnt go away, you gotta get that shit cut out. But when they cut it out tell them to take the gland with it and you will never get it again. Winny was thought for a while to combat progesterone, but it turns out that it didnt help at all. Good Luck
The Juggernaut


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C1

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posted February 19, 2001 11:09 AM

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If you have any nolvadex start popping it now! 2 a day for the first 4 days or until it settles down and then 1 a day and then 1 eod don't wait or it will only get worse. If you have hard lumps they won't go away but it will stop it where youre at. To bad bro.


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Rico

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posted February 19, 2001 11:26 AM

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Sorry bro, but Nolvadex is not going to do a thing for the progesterone related gyno. Since you've only been 2 weeks on your cycle, Clomid will not do anything for you either because your natural test level has not been compromised yet. It is really hard to believe anyone could be that prone to gyno but I guess stranger things have happened. Probably better take your doctor's advice and lay off everything. Winny is not a sure fix but you could try.


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browndog1

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posted February 19, 2001 12:38 PM

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I'd get some winstrol now. I am hypersensitive to progesterone-based gyno as well (though not to your extreme), and am finishing up some fina where I took winny at 25mg/EOD when I started to feel some tingling, and it worked wonders. For you, I'd say stop the deca immediately, don't worry about the clomid, and get some winny. Maybe hit 1cc every day for a few days, then back it off a bit. Do it for 2-3 weeks and you should be fine.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 19, 2001 12:52 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Tom smith:
Hi bros ,

I heard winstrol can help .

My doc says , how the hell can an androgenic anabolic combat the side effect of another anabolic?


First of all,your doc should know that Winstrol,despite being an androgen,does NOT AROMITIZE AT ANY DOSAGE.So it would have no baring on your gyno negatively.

Secondly,winstrol has been shown in numerous research studies to bind aggressively to the progesterone receptor,yet it has no progestogenic activity.What this means is it occupies the P/R in an idle state,blocking other metabolites from binding to it and activating it.It acts as a shield against activation...

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rainhorn

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posted February 19, 2001 01:03 PM

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to things can help you:
winistrol which not only binds to progrestaron receptors but occupay free progrestaron in your body.
the seconed is RU-486 if available.

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browndog1

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posted February 19, 2001 01:40 PM

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Does this mean that to effectively "block" or "occupy" the P/R, the winstrol should be taken PRIOR to administration of the prog-causing gear? Or will using winstrol like Nolva (i.e. - when the symptoms present themselves) be sufficient?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 19, 2001 01:49 PM

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You're right on brown dog.If pre-disposed towards progesterone sensitivity,I advocate using a winstol'encapsulation' pattern revolving around the deca.Start it about a week prior,and run it a couple of weeks past...Milk-thistle is obviously a must though...


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