Sounds nuts but do roids eg dbol, deca etc cause psychological disturbances like anxiety etc. Do they promote seizures in epileptics? In theory I know they can.

I suffer from acute anxiety whenever i pop pills. As an epileptic I am seemingly prone to being anxious anyway but I am trying to find out a way around the problem. I understand the contraindicative nature of roids + epilepsy but having battered coke up my nose for several years without probs that is probably not an issue. Incidentally I gave up coke 3 years ago and do not smoke, drink or take any type of recreationals whatsoever nowadays.

What I have written here is a serious request. I am not looking for flames; we all have to start somewhere (however small and shitty). I have a fairly extensive knowledge of the various drugs themselves but need to hear from others with epilepsy.

I am a devoted bodybuilder. I want to take it further.

Any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated.

JABBA

Epileptic seizures are actually symptoms of a variety of different underlying disorders with numerous underlying causes (genetic, response to trauma, tumors etc.)

Steroids do not directly affect the neurophysiological systems (ion channels, neurotransmitters, receptors) involved with mediation of excitatory and inhibitory activity in the brain.

But... You do need to consider ALL of the steroids and ancilliaries that you take in your cycle and be damn sure that they do not interact with the antiseizure drug that you use.

So, be more specific,

The only problem would be with you medications you are currentlly taking.

I have tried to summarise my situ here (bit long sorry):

CONDITION: Generalized over activity (photo)in brain and TLE. translation - two types of epilepsy-causing phenomena in brain. Both give rise to fits of a grand mal type but this is infrequent nowadays. I experience aura-like states and sleep apneoa (spelling?) as well as elevated adrenal function/anxiety fairly regularly. Lack of sleep, bright lights, megahangovers and excessive stress brought on fits in me. lack of food can also be a contrib. factor.

MEDICATION:

i am currently taking 1 x 500mg epilim (Sodium Valproate) daily (first thing in morning)

I have weaned myself off the following, with no ill effects ie no break thru-seizures or very small abcences
OK. here it is, my epilepsy stack(!):

I was taking Epilim 500mg x 2/day
300 mg Gabapentin x 3/day
50mg Moclobimide (Manerix) x 2/day

have stopped taking gabapentin and moclobimide altogether in effort to reduce possibility of interactions

I was prescribed moclobimide as an anti-anxiety agent, though its typical clinical application is in depression.

Having come off moclobimide in stages i can safely say that i am clear of that though i don't know what the half-life is like.

to the Guru bloke: tegretol retard...the drug that says it all in a name! tegretol is fucking horrendous, i feel your pain. i had to come off it because it totally mashed my head.

thanks again all.

Gabapentin is pretty well tolerated and does not interact w/ many drugs.

Valproic acid has been shown to elevate liver enzymes in ~40% of patients so be careful about using orals with it.

Also, be wary of drugs that may displace Valproic acid from plasma proteins elevate its levels (aspirin, blood thinners).

Be careful with taking Valproic acid and phenytoin as they compete for plasma proteins and VA can inhibit Phenytoin metabolism.

You should be OK with gear if you are careful. Look at rxlist.com to get an idea of the pharmacology of the drugs you are taking and any drug iunteractions you might have with it. These CNS-active drugs should not have any significant interactions with AS.

Best of luck

I will tread carefully as i only have some acdhon anabol at the moment. i have felt pretty dodgy after taking them but its hard to know if that just psychosomatic. i'll see if i can get my valproate stepped down too to lessen risk of contraindications.

thanks again + keep lifting 8)