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Riker29

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posted February 19, 2001 01:55 AM

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These 2 are many times listed almost as being equal - but I would image that their use and actions differ in some manner.

Anyone care to clarify?

Any guidelines as to maybe which cycle types would point to the use of one or the other?


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Jback

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posted February 19, 2001 01:58 AM

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I only use anti-estrogens(other than clomid) while using test-just not all that prone to gyno-my experience has been one tab daily of proviron starting halfway through a cycle or earlier if you are having problems works better than nolvadex in the sense of not cutting into gains quite as much-but nolvadex does a good job as well.

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lawnsaver

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posted February 19, 2001 02:00 AM

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Proviron stop the AAS from aromitising. Nolvadex binds to the estrogen receptor, blocking the true estrogen and its side effects. Proviron is a better choice since there will be no rebound effect that happens when nolvadex is stopped. Proviron is also know as a week androgen with no anabolic properties.

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Riker29

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posted February 19, 2001 02:06 AM

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So, they both seem to be effective in using when:

Gyno appears to be starting, and you want to halt it. ... and ..

If you simply want something to combat aromatization while ON< maybe to keep water retention down a bit....

but Proviron appears to be a slightly better choice.

True?


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Solid Steel

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posted February 19, 2001 03:33 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by lawnsaver:
Proviron is a better choice since there will be no rebound effect that happens when nolvadex is stopped. Proviron is also know as a week androgen with no anabolic properties.



Not so straight forward, they work via 2 different mechanisms and cannot be compared like that. It is not so straight forward. Yes proviron prevents aromatization, yes there is a rebound effect when using nolva. But your body needs certain amounts of estrogen in order to correctly function and to make the environment optimal for muscle gaining.

If you are not worried about water retention then combine the 2 as soon as you see any developments of gyno.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted February 19, 2001 03:41 AM

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Please show me any proof that PROVIRON is an ANTI AROMATASE. The only anti aromatase that is any bit available is ARIMADEX.

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Stealth Assasin

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posted February 19, 2001 03:53 AM

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"Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids"


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The Juggernaut

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posted February 19, 2001 10:42 AM

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Not a big fan of either. Proviron is an anabolic steroid, nolvadex isnt. Proviron is a good steroid to do after a cycle because it hardens your physique and it lets your boyd get going again....even though it is an AS. But taking it during a cycle isnt a good idea because it competes for the same recpetors that other anabolics do. As for nolvadex, if blocks the estrogen so it prevents gyno and all that good stuff, but the estrogen is part of the reason why you gain so much mass. So nolvadex cuts down on mass gains. Choose your fate.
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