Is this one of the best to take? While off Clen,
#1) should you take specifically the ECA stack or could you just as well take Dymetadrine extreme
Xenadrine
Hydroxycut
Etc...

#2)I am running 4-5 morning a week (lift 4 times a week)and need as much help as possible to shed some fat.
These products are very similar -- Dammit!
Which SEEMS to work the best? Should I look for specifics in the ingredients?

I don't feel any effects of the ECA (I did last year when I tried it for a few weeks) maybe because of the Clen the tremors and rapid heart wasn't as bad this time...dunno

I have 6 1/2 weeks left and every morning I look in the mirror and just don't see anything happening. Shedding fat is really difficult! BTW my diet is high protein with very little fat and carbs. I am taking vitamins, Flax oil, and Whey protein.

You guys are so helpful. Any and all suggestions would be helpful!

I know, I know, Get on Whinny...need the cash first though :-)

this has really worked well for me....especially since this was my last year playing college ball and I am officially done with power lifting shit.....

My diet is perfect......
#1, I cut back on protein...consumption I was up to 300grams a day for several months and that is complete bullshit...It does not take that much protein....
#2 I eat 6 times a day,
8am- 6 eggg whites, three table spoons oatmeal. 2 slices whole wheat toast, 1/2 grapefruit, 3 classes unsweetened ice tea(natural diuretic)
11:00am- Turkey Sandwhich

2:30- Protein shake or 1 tbl. spoon peanut butter on 1 slice whole wheat bread
WORKOUT
5:30pm- FIsh or Steak and PASTA, Unsweetened ice tea
8pm-- Protein shake

10pm- 1 teaspoon of peanut butter....

Secondly, are you running or jogging? I think when most people say they "run" they are really referring to jogging. There is no other form of aerobic activity that will shed fat as well as jogging. Running will burn muscle unless it is done with high intensity and short duration. Witness a sprinter like Michael Johnson. If anybody disputes the fact that he is well built, they are idiots. He runs, yet he is very muscular and very cut. Sure you could walk on the treadmill, but you won't burn hardly any calories. Yeah, all the calories you burn will be entirely from fat, but you're still not burning enough calories to put your body in an energy deficit, unless you walk for over an hour (waste of time). Jog, in the morning, on an empty stomach. Eat a super clean diet, but make sure you do not take in more calories than you expend, or you won't lose very much fat. Do not eat any later than 7:00, and try to limit your carb intake. Stay away from bread, white rice, sugar, white flour products, etc. Drink plenty of water. Alternate your clen and ECA, and try to take some sort of AS to maintain your muscle mass. When you severely restrict calories, your body will strip muscle tissue because it senses starvation and muscle mass is very metobolically active, thus it eats up calories. You don't want this. Taking some form of AS will help to prevent this process. Your body will strip fat as its source of energy in a calorie deficit because you will have a certain amount of circulation hormone preventing it from breaking down too much muscle.

Lastly, stick with it. Don't give up. Always remember that your body becomes accustomed to various stresses rather quickly. Change your routine often. I like to go two weeks of low cal, followed by two weeks of low carb. The body has a hard time adapting to this. I also like to restrict calories Mon-Sat, and eat freely on Sundays. This will help to confuse your body. It will try to slow your metabolism because of the limited calories, but if you stuff it once a week, it will ramp up your metabolism in response. Thus, you have successfully tricked it once again. That is the key. You do all of this and stick with it, you will get cut, no doubt about it. It is hard as hell, but you can do it!

GHOST - to answer your question, I am basically following the Bill Phillips method of the 20 minute high intensity cardio. Start out with light run and every minute get faster until every fifth minute I am sprinting as fast as I can for a minute, then back down....
Sometimes I just do an interval workout of 60 second jog, 60 sec run - again for 20 minutes.
I usually always do these in the morning on an empty stomach.
I don't think this is going to burn muscle...a lot of people support this philosophy right?

BTW - Who takes the "Patented ECA Stack" and who just makes their own stack : 25 mg E, 200 mg Caff, 325 mg A ??

Which is cheaper? Equally effective??

"I don't think this is going to burn muscle...a lot of people support this philosophy right?"

You will undoubtadely lose some muscle while you are dieting regardless of what you take. The trick is to lose most of your weight from fat, and as little as possible from your LBM. If you listen to some of the advice on this board, you will be eating 5,000 calories per day, swallowing DNP capsules, chomping on thyroid hormone, shooting GH, eating 39 times per day, taking in 1,000 grams of protein, and doing like 10 minutes of aerobics per month to get cut. Bunch of stupid bullshit. If you want to get cut, it really is very simple. Eat right, train hard, take in less energy than you expend. Why people must complicate this issue so much is beyond me. You're not going to get cut eating all day long. You're not going to get cut by avoiding aerobics, and you're not going to get cut by turning your body into a chemistry experiment while sitting on your ass like some people try to do. You sound like you have a good plan, so just stick with it. If you choose to use drugs, then don't look at that bottle or needle as the answer. Look at that plate of food as the answer. Look to what you do in the gym as your answer. I agree, drugs help, but trust me, your training and diet will have much more to do with what you look like than the drugs you decide to use.

Just try not to overcomplicate it. I can't stress this enough.

You are a huge help!! Thank you! Your check is in the mail!!!

*NC*