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Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 310 |
What was the longest DNP cycle you all have taken? How many lbs did you lose? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 668 |
2 weeks 15 lbs, and 10lbs off my max ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 570 |
4 weeks at 200mg/day. Lost 8 lbs with no diet whatsoever. Not to mention no sweating or discomfort..... Godspeed ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 668 |
I find 4 weeks very hard to believe even it 200mg/day... At that dose, you can have a perminantly elevated body temp, not to mention thyroid problems. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 472 |
I don't mean to sound like a pussy here, but the recommended schedule is 7 days, 7 days off, & then back on for 7 more days. Then wait a while before you hit it again. This is how I used it, and I had good results from it. It cause cause some serious problems if you run it non-stop for long periods of time. Just be smart with it. Oh yea, I forgot to add that at the end of my cycle(after the three weeks) I had lost a total of 11 or 12lbs. [This message has been edited by 'ORCHITIS' (edited February 18, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 570 |
Rugby, I understand your skepticism, but at low doses DNP can be run for extended periods of time. You just have to take precautions.(Like anti-oxidants, vitamins, etc....). You know the drill. Remember, that back in the 1930's when DNP was first used for weight loss, people took it for 2-6 months.... And as far as thyroid problems are concerned, I just took 25mcgs T3 +ephedrine to overcome those... Godspeed ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 30 |
The only reason that is "recommened" is that 7 days is about all that people can take of the side effects...I think people would find ~2 weeks at low doseages would yeild better results with minimal sides... as Fonz said..as long as you take all your other stuff there shouldn't be any harm, but if you would like to point out what the risks are with prolonged use, please do... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 570 |
From DNP, Both male and female: rapid fat-oxidation yields a massive amount of free-radicals. That is why antioxidants are an absolute must while taking DNP. In women: Women are the only ones that are at risk from cataracts from DNP use(incidence about 1%)(funnily exclusive to women) As Rugby stated, DNP will shut down T4-T3 conversion. Therefore if using DNP for an extended period of time the addition of T3 is necessary, due to the fact DNP will shut down the thyroid if used for too long a time. On an interesting note it would be interesting to see if the body adapts to DNP. In other words thyroid levels remain low for 4-5 weeks then rebound to normal.... Godspeed ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 331 |
I did 600mg EOD and 800mg EOD for 2 weeks and lost 16lbs. Sweat my ass off. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
Fonz, yes they did use DNP for periods of 2-6 months back in the 30's. But large numbers of their patients died. So to make reference like you just did is irresponsible to say the least. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1665 |
myo-genetics INCORRECT records of people who died from it come from its use in the manufacture of TNT in munitions plants in france during WWI ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
An old biochemisty text once said and I quote "ATP uncouplers were very popular for a brief time in the 1930s as they were used for weight loss. The results were astounding. The patients of the doctors lost a significant amount of weight. But in the process they often lost the patient." I have no bias either way. I'm just repeating what I read, and re-read to make sure I understood. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 570 |
In my defense Myo_Genetic, you should do more research..... All the recorded deaths from DNP came from its use in blasting (as macro said), and due to exposure to its fumes. It was also used(can you believe it) as a food colouring agent.... Godspeed ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 307 |
Just finished a 10 day cycle of dnp(normally go for 7 days), @ 600 mg ed. I don't think I'll ever do that again, all the crappy things happened when I came past day 7, sore throat etc etc. I'll stick any time to 7 day cycles. Allthough, I'm curious about the low dossing regimen for prolonged periods of time. MICHLDAV/VIKING OF THE NORTH. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 402 |
If anyone died using DNP it was probably from dehydration or the dosage was way too high. If you don't drink water non stop you will dehydrate quickly. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
What I read was from a professional college text book. The instructor even covered it in class even though it was for 5 minutes. So Fonz, what exactly is it that want to hear? I don't have the book anymore but I'm sure there are new editions in any college bookstore that will back the previous ones. I've done my research and that is what I found so why don't you do some for yourself before you open your mouth. Having an open mind is about accepting new possibilites, not just accepting to be set in your ways. You really should try it sometime. In the last few days, when those other guys were blasting you, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But now I realize just how correct they were. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1665 |
MYO-GENETICS While I am quite sure that your text said that, as well as your professor, it is none the less (i beleive) incorrect information. The problem with reading something is that the text is only as good as the authors research. In the time that I have researched DNP, I have found no evidence of deaths from clinical use. But then again maybe my research is faulty. peace ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 570 |
My suggestion Myo is that you research clinical information on DNP, and not rely so much on incorrectly extrapolated textbook information. Thi is not a flame, just a polite reminder. Godspeed ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1665 |
Myo-genetics I have found similar references, but nothing to substantiate them. Several obesity articles reference such deaths, but they fail to reference source of info. It was my impression that DNP was pulled from the market for 2 reasons 1. it worked ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 688 |
Macro is spot on as usual and I beleive another reson it was pulled from the market was due an incidence of cataracts in women that was thought to be from DNP use. Luca ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 603 |
Not to start a big argument, but Myo may be correct. I have an older edition of Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics and it talks about DNP. The authors give it a good review even stating that it could have been a great drug for weight loss, but they state that back in the 30's the labeling and drug regulation laws were non-existant, and this allowed many to add DNP to OTC weight-loss nostrums. This they claim did lead to deaths. The idea of deaths with DNP should come at no surprise, especially in this time of US history. Anyone who has used DNP can attest that this drug has a very high potential for adverse affects. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1078 |
from what i know the only reason it goten out is because they found it cause cataract in the eyes but know day you can eliminate it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 307 |
Well that summs it up, uhmm. Because something is written in print, doesn't make it so - but still it's a choice we decide for ourselves if we choose to believe the claims written. You can read articles stating that anablics etc. are more dangerous and addictive than crack, coke etc. It has happened before, that some general misconception transforms into something believed by common man(& even 'researchers') to be true. Maybe that's the only fact that goes for the disputed drug dnp(at least when it comes to weightloss.) ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 359 |
I am with macro and fonz...In my med school books it mentions nothing about loosing pt....I would imagine it was due to pt noncompliance and overdosing the drug to get increased results...think about it ...if you were 400lbs and 400mgs worked wonders for you ....just think what a gram could do...or maybe two grams...the fda only needed purity to give the ok on a drug...it didn't need to be safe.....the therapeutic index is really small if you think about it..also if aspirin was just discovered in todays laws..it would not be approved for use by the fda...the drug works...long periods at low doses or short at moderate dosages...unless you enjoy punishment I liked two weeks at 400mg a day...not many sides but enough...maye 300 or 200 for 2-4 weeks would not be that bad...just use some gugguls for t4-t3 conversion or a little t3... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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