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kk300

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posted February 18, 2001 05:43 AM

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My best friend works at Metroflex and he told me the other day he was talking to Brian Dobson and were talking about drug use in the pro and amatuer level. Anyway, my friend asked B.D. if he knew what kind of cycles the pros were doing and he told him the outline of Ronnies cycles. To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.

1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout

He says he stay on all year and three to four months out from a contest he takes

50mg winstrol/day
20mg halotestin/day
75mcg T3/day

I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie.


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Solid Steel

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posted February 18, 2001 06:25 AM

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No one but the pros and their advisors know how much they take. Anything you hear otherwise take it as pure speculation. I am not saying that is not what he is using or he cant get away with using that but unless it comes from the horses mouth itself then dont believe.


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posted February 18, 2001 08:28 AM

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Thats probably what he has for breakfast.


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The Ghost

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posted February 18, 2001 09:18 AM

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There is no human being on earth that can be 305 lbs at 7% on that little bit of gear. Let the flames begin...

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posted February 18, 2001 09:20 AM

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yea, and if he is eating 5 times a day..........

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posted February 18, 2001 09:58 AM

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k300 I think you forgot to add he takes 5 d-bol and lots lots andor and creatine. but his best weapon for mass is his mens multi vitamin....LOL

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posted February 18, 2001 10:29 AM

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don't they test for as at that level why would he take deca it takes a long time to get out of your system .


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quote:
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don't they test for as at that level why would he take deca it takes a long time to get out of your system .

Nope
no testing takes place


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posted February 18, 2001 10:55 AM

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Brian forgot to add the plasma expanders.

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posted February 18, 2001 11:01 AM

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I don't know, 2Thick would be 305 7% on that cycle in a no time.

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posted February 18, 2001 11:11 AM

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whats really sad is that old ron is a cop.hypocritical maybe? i think so. he is nothing but a really huge pig! its sad that he probably busts people for doing the exact same thing that he does.


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posted February 18, 2001 11:14 AM

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That is his cycle...just multiply all the dosages by 5.

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quote:
Originally posted by STATIC PUMP:
whats really sad is that old ron is a cop.hypocritical maybe? i think so. he is nothing but a really huge pig! its sad that he probably busts people for doing the exact same thing that he does.

Im not 100% sure but under the impression he has left the force


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posted February 18, 2001 11:14 AM

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I'll go get the lighter fluid!!

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posted February 18, 2001 11:25 AM

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I buy it.

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posted February 18, 2001 11:47 AM

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thats his toothpaste...

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posted February 18, 2001 11:52 AM

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if he left the force or not, he was still 'ON' while a cop. in my book thats fucked cause i could get busted for using something on MY body but mr coleman wont.
equality and truth...there is no substitute


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posted February 18, 2001 11:56 AM

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How long have you been living in this country? This is the first time you have seen a cop getting away with something you can't. Why do you think they carry their badges off duty? In case they need to identify themselves to the public.. come on you know the game.

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posted February 18, 2001 12:06 PM

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your right ulter...i guess i just didnt want to believer there were so many bitch's walking around. i know there not all bad but there is no room for specialized treatment or hipocrisy on the police force.


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posted February 18, 2001 12:42 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by STATIC PUMP:
whats really sad is that old ron is a cop.hypocritical maybe? i think so. he is nothing but a really huge pig! its sad that he probably busts people for doing the exact same thing that he does.

ronnie left the police force at the early part of this year, and i seriously doubt he tried to bust anybody for taking AS..i am pretty sure local law affilites have little to do with busting people for AS...i think that is mostly limited to DEA and other similar organizations.

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you forgot about the 20 or so injections of synthol he uses on every major and most minor body parts-the guy is like a balloon that coulod be popped with a little pin-not to mention the fact that he could possibly be the dumbest, stupidest person I have ever had the privelage of talking to-the synthol is the secret to his success.

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Wow..20 or so injections of synthol,would make him that much bigger and Ripped?


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thos e20 injections of synthol is daily or at the best eod-no it wouldn't make him that big and ripped-thats what the as and gh are for-the synthol just cause the muscles to swell and I'm sure the dosage he is using causes a little extra swelling perhaps.

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posted February 18, 2001 02:09 PM

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Ronnie says he doesnt do steroids, and that he's .33% bf


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posted February 19, 2001 01:10 AM

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bwahahahahahaa! hell yeah!, and marcus anad-ruhl only uses stenandione.

this is funny..

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I find a few things of fault with this so-caller real cycle.

First off. For his weight he wouldn't see anyresults from 20 I.U. of insulin. A person with the weight of 200lbs takes 13 IU for a low dose.

Thats the first fault I saw, Don't you think That the pros would have a bit more knowledge about what they are using.

And "50mg winstrol/day"

isn't enought for anyone to see hardly any results at all.
The Body weight of this person is so great that the dose would actually be worse on his attempts at gainning more weight.

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there is no testing for AS at that level. If you heard EXACTLY what ronnie said on leno-"I didnt WANT to take the steroids that you need to compete at that level" "I was offered a free membership by the gym owner if I would compete." So he is saying he didnt want to do them, but he does. I had the opportunity to meet Ronnie in Sacramento, CA and he spoke to a buddy of mine that is going to compete in the USA this year about cycles, diet, so forth. Those doses are NOTHING close to what they spoke of! Ronnie shoots everywhere in his body that there is a muscle: lats, calves,forearms,bis,tris,trapz,hams,leg,ass,everywhere because of the high volume. His HGH is closer to a vial and a half a day, like 25IU or so. Look at his head! He is getting giantism. His GH and IGF gut are huge,not possible on 6IU.


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Yea and my cousin's granda ma's uncle's step brother who used to train with Arnold at Gold's Venice said Arnold bulked up with a half an androstenedione tab and a 1/4 of tribulus tab every other day.

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Does it really matter what he takes? Most of us, as gear users are probably more than a little guilty of hypocrisy at one time or another. It seems to me that Coleman is at this time the best damn freakiest bodybuilder on the planet and for this I congratulate him. I'm sure he takes huge amounts of whatever he is taking but who here, if they had the opportunity, wouldn't do the same?
I have friends who are absolute mass freaks and I know first hand how much gear they are taking - sh#tloads. I wish I could do the same and yeah, I'm jealous. All I know for sure is that huge amounts of gear are required to build a physique like his and I don't care how good his genetics are, it stands to reason that he takes a sh#tload. Who cares? He's Mr Olympia and I'm assuming most of us here are not - why are we even worrying about this (I mean it is kinda interesting) but let's not lose sleep over it.


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Ok I posted this under another topic but here goes again.

The pro's are taking huge amounts of steroids. On another web site I remember reading what an English bodybuilder had to say about a top Pro American bodybuilder who he had to chauffeur around, while he was doing Guest seminars in the UK.
He said that he couldn't believe it when he watched this Pro shoot 20 amps of Winstrol before he went to do a seminar. He said this guy just kept injecting into every muscle group, shoulders, biceps, triceps, calves, pecs, etc.

I mean 20 amps!!!!! that's 1000 mg's of Winstrol.

I've got a fair idea who they are talking about and he is quite a bit smaller than Coleman.

Most pro women are using more steroids than what is in that alleged Coleman cycle.


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he was using 8 susts per day and 1 hell of a lot gh so my mate who is a pro told me


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posted February 19, 2001 08:12 AM

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does not seems realistic for a pro to use this small amounts


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I think too may people feel that JOEY THE JUICEHEAD is the expert to listen to. People are genetically gifted. Ron COleman is one of these. It's that simple. The amount of gear he uses works for him NOT FOR MOST OF US. We are not as good, yet. This is rumor, but I have also herd that he uses very little in comparisson to most. The problem here is that most of the people amateur lifters talk to about roids are junkies that will never be pro. As soon as people realize to quit making up excuses for their lack of accomplishments, this sport will become much better. TRAINING, DIET AND CONSISTANCY....thats the best juice.


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Genetically gifted? Oh please!
So your saying that he is the first gifted human being on Earth?
Of course not..so when in history have you seen pictures of someone his size or even closer, EVER?
GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GH GH GH GH GH
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apbt post dont tkey test for AS AT TKAT LEVEL. EVEYONE KNOW TKAT TKE PROS JUICE(sorry about caps) as muck as tkey take it will never be out intime to pass a drug test nayway. And for tke otker Browko said kes on and a cop too. Well Ronnie isnt a cop anymore


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XCyter, great point. If Ron Coleman's genetics were so great, and in fact led him to the size he is now, howcome guys like Sergio Oliva never even came close to being 305 pounds and pretty cut? So Ron Coleman's genetics are the difference between his massive size and Sergio's size, which was rather small in comparison? I don't f'n think so.

Yeah, Ron Coleman's diet and training are probably absolutely perfect. But if you guys think he built that body on 1,500 mg of test and 400 mg of deca or whatever, you are just plain blind. True, nobody except Coleman knows what he takes, but I don't care how much food he eats or how hard he trains, 1,500 mg of test will not support a 305lb cut human being. Open your eyes.

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According to the deadpool at nuclear nutrition, ronnie is quoted as saying "My body can't take this much longer." as he is sitting on a couch hooked to an IV drip.

Supposedly, that's why he is entering the Arnold against Joe Weider's request, because he'll be out of the sport soon.


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OH YEAH, BROS, THAT IS HIS ACTUAL CYCLE!
I SOLD IT TO HIM!


Sorry, felt like spicing up this thread.
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"According to the deadpool at nuclear nutrition, ronnie is quoted as saying "My body can't take this much longer." as he is sitting on a couch hooked to an IV drip."

1,500mg of test shouldn't have that effect on him, should it? BWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't believe how naive people really are. Oh well.

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he doesnt take AS, he said its all hambugers and pizza only...remember from the Jay Leno tonight show?

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well all I can say is this thread is pure bullshit, Im sure he takes 10 times that much, look I know of 2 pros who use 36 units of GH a day alone, and one of them is probably in the top 3, including coleman, so before you post a thread that is useless, contact ronnie himself and then post, because this thread is bullshit, let me post an amatuers cycle for you, then you will see your way wrong:
amatuer cycle:
200 suston amps
300 anadrol
1000 pink thai dbols
300 halotestin tabs
100 proviron tabs
14 bottles of cell tech
500 cytomel tabs
2000 winny tabs
700 cytadren tabs
4 bottles of synthol
1400 iu of GH
14000 iu insulin
3400 mcg of IGF-1

Now tell me if this is an amatuers stack for a cycle, where does your ronnie coleman cycle stand...........Let me give you a hint, his cycle is 5 times this.


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His genetics are probably great, but they don't even compare to Flex's genetics. Ronnie uses boatloads of gear, period. Just think what Arnold could have done with all of the shit they have now.

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Are you sure you dont mean Ron Coleman--that I would believe but I bet he still uses more then that---And he is supp. to be natural


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quote:
Originally posted by CN1:
well all I can say is this thread is pure bullshit, Im sure he takes 10 times that much, look I know of 2 pros who use 36 units of GH a day alone, and one of them is probably in the top 3, including coleman, so before you post a thread that is useless, contact ronnie himself and then post, because this thread is bullshit, let me post an amatuers cycle for you, then you will see your way wrong:
amatuer cycle:
200 suston amps
300 anadrol
1000 pink thai dbols
300 halotestin tabs
100 proviron tabs
14 bottles of cell tech
500 cytomel tabs
2000 winny tabs
700 cytadren tabs
4 bottles of synthol
1400 iu of GH
14000 iu insulin
3400 mcg of IGF-1

Now tell me if this is an amatuers stack for a cycle, where does your ronnie coleman cycle stand...........Let me give you a hint, his cycle is 5 times this.


exactly! I know a guy that will compete in the next USA as a super-heavy. He wrote me a "begginer getting ready to compete" cycle that was over 4g of test a week and 25 dbol a day with 400mg deca EOD! F-ck all that. He told me how he IV's his HGH in, I would pass out.


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posted February 19, 2001 07:23 PM

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HOW DO YOU STOP AROMATIZATION WITH ALL THAT GEAR?

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I suppose this is where someone will say he takes 15 arimidex tabs a day and that they are the shit and that he doesn't even bloat?hehehe Fuzz


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posted February 19, 2001 08:32 PM

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4 GRAMS OF TEST? FUCK I GOT 5 POUNDS BIGGER JUST BY READING THAT, LOL...

NAAA THAT RONNIE CYCLE IS FAKE...


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Actually, that cycle is pretty similar to what he is supposed to be doing according to people who help him with things.
The exact cycle I heard for the arnold was:
600mg suspension/week
750 mg sust/week(switches to Prop 4 weeks out)
25mg/day american anavar
30mg/day american Halo
100mg EOd winstrol v
100mg eod primo
8iu/gh day
10-15 clen/day
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In the offseason he goes heavier (2g/week test, Dbol,etc)
The main thing is that Ronnie works HARD, and due to having a good work schedule, eats what he needs to grow. Watch one of his videos. His first one is OK, as it shows his work ethic and dedication. It may seem like he is getting sloppy at times with his form but you must note that he keeps constant tension on his muscles at all times with heavy weights. He does not lock out his squats and does 12-15 reps below parallel with no lockout. Anyone who has tried this with heavy weights and higher reps knows that its no joke. He has a new video coming out in the next couple of months called "the Unbelievable" I have seen outtakes of this video and he FRONT SQUATS 585 FOR SIX REPS BELOW PARALLEL, Military presses 315 for 10, bb rows 405 for 12 easy ones,DB benches 200lb dbs for 12! reps, and Deadlifts 805 for 2. These weights while all the while keeping tension on the muscle.This video will be out shortly by Mitsuru Okabe. I encourage everyone to get it.This deadlift is more than those idiots at Westside barbell can do with all their fancy equipment, although they do have some good ideas. As far as the drug thing goes, no, no one sees how much he takes and only he knows for sure,however it is interesting to have heard of this similar cycle from someone totally cut off from the texas scene, but very much in Ronnies.Ronnie eats 600 plus grams of protein daily, trains like a horse, and does the drugs.He does no drinking or recreational drugs at all.Drugs are one third of the equation, along with training and nutrition.Skimp on any one of these, and results will be less than awesome. I just don't like people bickering about the amount some guy says another guy takes and trying to discredit him.IF everyone here thinks that taking drugs at a high dosage is bad, they shouldn't be here in the first place.But everyone here that badmouths the guy and says he takes five-ten times those amounts should take a week off from work, get in their car, and drive to Mexico and get 100 bottles of Tokkyo 200mg cypionate and take 2 bottles per week for a year. Then after a year, when they look and lift just like Ronnie Coleman, they can report back to us and tell us how drugs are all that matters to become great.


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"...and Deadlifts 805 for 2. These weights while all the while keeping tension on the muscle.This video will be out shortly by Mitsuru Okabe. I encourage everyone to get it.This deadlift is more than those idiots
at Westside barbell can do with all their fancy equipment..."

Ok... this is ridiculous...

805x2 making sure that all the tension is on the muscle... what the fuck does that mean? Could he deadlift 805/2 without any tension on the muscle? The deadlift starts from a completely stationary position. You can't use momentum or boucning. Have you ever picked up anything over 315 off the ground?

Also, referring to the "idiots at Westside and their gear" is kinda stupid... the deadlift is the one lift that is almost always done without gear.

You shouldn't rip someone else's sport in an attempt to climb all over your idol's dick

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oh no this is getting funny as hell


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quote:
Originally posted by SquatLord2k:
You shouldn't rip someone else's sport in an attempt to climb all over your idol's dick

Peace out.
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Thought he was natural?


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i thought he only used weider megamass.


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We've been mislead by Joe Weider, it can't be.


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His genetics are probably great, but they don't even compare to Flex's genetics. Ronnie uses boatloads of gear, period. Just think what Arnold could have done with all of the shit they have now.



IF ARNOLD DID THE GEAR RONNIE DID WE WOULD BE AMAZED. NO BODY COULD EVER COMPARE!ARNOLD IS THE BEST THERE WAS AND EVER WILL BE. HE WAS SIMPLY THE MAN!


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HOW DO YOU STOP AROMATIZATION WITH ALL THAT GEAR?



SURGURY!


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What the hell are you guys talking about?! Ronnie doesn't use ANY gear! He doesn't even workout like us. He uses the BowFlex 3 times a week and does the AbGlide for 5 minutes on off days.

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ironbarbarian

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naaaa he dosent even use a bowflex, he follows richard simmon's diet to loose fat.


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Yeah, the Simmons diet. Some say he does Thai Bo twice a week too. Fuckin' monster!

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I heard Billy Blanks could kick Coleman's ass!!!!!!!!!!!

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you guys are all outta your minds..ronnie doesnt even use juice. just lots of creatine and weight gainer...right?

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This is crazy stuff. lol


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Squatlord
You are right about the dead not being done with much gear.About the muscle tension, abviously there is tension in any weight movement. But to do 585 for 6 deep front squats without locking out is WAY harder than locking out and letting the joints take some of the pressure. However, I just meant that it is funny that Ronnie is way STRONGER than any of those guys at WSB, and he doesn't even specialize in PL.I shouldn't have called them idiots, because Louie has my respect and my money for the videos I bought. But one has to admit that the gear used today has gotten out of control. I forgot to put that he also inclines those 200 lb dbs for 7 reps, and incline bbs 495 for 10 reps. I do have a video of Anthony clark BARELY getting 495 for 3 on incline. Pow!erlifter video: the Bench Press vol. 1 and Jamie Harris doing a couple with 470. Both have benched (with gear, lots of it)over 700.Granted they do not specialize on incline like bench either. Those guys are not as strong to me as guys in the seventies, like Jon Cole and John Kuc. Both of those totalled over 2300, and I've seen Cole pull over 800 without even a belt on. Kaz benched 600 for six reps with no shirt. No one today except maybe James Henderson could do that. Obviously if I know this much about PL I wasn't bashing it. I respect Pl'ing and BB. I shouldn't have bashed Westside, but I just didn't like people saying Ronnie was all drugs.Anyone who has lifted heavy knows that there is more to being big and strong than drugs. There is a lot more to lifting than just taking shots. I myself have done less than six months total of steroids in my life and benched 455 for 6 touch and go, Barbell rowed 365 for 12,and 9 pullups at a bodyweight of 325 at a height of 6'5", among other lifts. There is a mod on this board who has seen me do some of these lifts too before the flames begin. This is my girl's handle, I go by the name of Shad Bledsoe.
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ayn- while I agree about Colemans strength, you are SADLY mistaken on his cycle. 8IU of hgh a day DOES NOT disform your head and hands like that,and distend your internal organs against your belly. I have done 12IU/Day for 5 mos straight with 1g Prop a week and 600 deca,and before you say genetics, I was 225 with a 33" waist at 5'10 when I started juice and benched 460 natural too. I know a few guys from LA and many out here in the bay area that are semi-pro and one got his pro card last year and is in the USA this year. All of those guys use 5x what you posted. Hell, alot of people on this board use more than what you posted.I have competed in the Mr. Sacramento, Contra-Costa show,and Mr. Jr Nevada. About 4 years ago Ronnie was a muscular 230 pounds, not a muscled out 310 pounds with abs.80 pounds of muscle is a lot, he went from 9th or 10th place to 1st the following year. Yes, he does eat a lot, but so do all the other guys in the O.


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I'm looking for a major flame here, but her goes. I saw ( at the time lived with him and his girlfriend )a guy who placed thrid in his weight class in the USA a few years ago, use barely a gram of test/week with as little as 400mg Deca/week, with 1-2 tabs of Drol/day. He had 20+in arms 31+in legs with a TINY waist, so I say perhaps, just perhaps.

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does anyone think that those plates used are fakes used for the image or is it just me??

i know there is a whole gym in CA that has fake plates and it is used when they take pics and make vid's, im not saying he is strong, but front squatting that seems quite much, no??

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