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 TEST IS TEST RIGHT?????????
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Now correct me if im wrong here. Testosterone is testosterone plain and simple. The difference in the different esters (propionate, enanthate, cypionate) is just the way they time release in the body. right?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 651 |
you are correct | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 515 |
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 300 |
Yes sir!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 149 |
Ok if im correct, then how can there be such a massive difference between the different tests? Omnadren, Sustanon, Enanthate, if its just when theyre released and duration then why would one cause more water retention than another? or one be better than another. 1000 mg.s of sust vs. 1000 mg.s of cypionate// whats the diff besides release and duration? | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 30 |
yes the esters control the amount of time it takes for the test. to be "released" from the ester, some of the ones you mentioned have a mixture of esters that make them up prop and cyp is quick enan is moderate 2weeks | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 149 |
OK...so what does release rate have to do with water retention and size gains??? 1000mgs of sust and 1000mgs of enanthate sonner or later will all be in your system right? so how is one better or worse than the other.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 149 |
someones got to know this, im curious how this can be rationalized. make me understand guys...i dont get it. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
Well let me take a stab at it 1000mg of enanthate is one ester, 1000mg of sust are 4 different esters(i know you are going to say well test is test) correct but with sust the you are taking 2 fast acting esters and 2 slow acting esters which means the amount you will have in yor system will vary so even though you have 1000mg of sust in yor system it is not 1000mg of the same exact drug, also in sust 2 of the esters are less androgenic. Test will act the same but they are 2 totally differnt drugs and willk have different effects on the body. IRONMAN | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1303 |
The problem with Test blends is that it is not as easy to get a constant level of Test. (which is desirable for best gains). Due to the different esters. Also, take sust., it has tiny amounts of prop. (30mg) which means it will not start working so quick. Test is test, and it comes down to personal choice on what ester (or blend) you want to use but I prefer a single such as Testoviron, I feel more 'in control' and it seems to give quicker results. ------------------ | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1916 |
In 1000mgs of enanthate there is 720mgs of raw test. Cypionate and enanthate are very similar. The ester is simply as you know the transport mechanism to allow the test to disperse at different timed intervals. The quicker acting drugs tend to hold more water (cyp or enanthate over sust), this is not so true. It is simply because the test is released quicker and estrogen levels rise more rapidly. Because the esters in sust (apart from prop) release over a much longer time period it takes the estrogen levels time to build up and cause the water retention. After about 5 or 6 weeks there is no reason why sust should hold less water than any other ester (Apart from suspension). Once the estrogen levels have built up then no matter what aromatizing drug you are on it is going to cause some level of water retention. If you dont want the water then use an anti estrogen. ------------------ | ||
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Olympian
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posted February 18, 2001 12:36 AM