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'ORCHITIS'

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posted February 17, 2001 06:39 PM

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I ran a search and found that it supposedly increases muscle mass in the injection spot, and also that it kills fat cells. I remember Ranger talking about it awhile back, but I can't recall what all he had to say about it. Does anyone have any knowledge or experiences that they would care to share? I would like to know what it really does, a recommended dosage, and the dosage schedule. I was thinking of shooting it in my lower abdominal region to get rid of that pesky fat. I have tried clean dieting, running, ECA, DNP, & T3. However, the only part of my body that is chubby or not tone is my waistline. I think it could be related to estrogen, but would pgf2a help me get ride of some of the fat? Thanks for your time.

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bigrand

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posted February 17, 2001 07:04 PM

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Hey bro, ive never used the shit, but plan to very soon in the same manner as you (spot injecting in different fat stores). I have spoken to several experienced PGF2 users and have decided to shoot 1/4cc twice a day in fat stores and after about 4-7 days, up the dose to 1/2cc each time. This low dose tapering up helps limit shity (litterally) sides. As of now, PGF2 is the only available substance that KILLS fat cells instead of reducing fat stored in the fat vacuoles of WAT. Things like a cerebral injection of leptin can also do the trick, but we wont do that now will we.....
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macrophage69alpha

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posted February 17, 2001 07:07 PM

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pgf2a will help
it can "kill" fat cells.

also
have you tried stacking
dnp, eca, yohimbine hcl?

this is a magical stack

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted February 17, 2001 07:13 PM

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Thanks bro for the info. I have a few more questions for ya though. Is pgf2a & pgf2 the same thing. I thought they were different. I have access to lutalyse-?sp, and I think that is an alias for pgf2a, but please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Also, when injecting do you just inject kinda like you would for GH(pinch the skin & shoot)? How far do you need to spread out the two injections durnig the day?

Sorry about all the questions, but I have heard this stuff has bad sides so I want to make sure I get everything right. Thanks

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted February 17, 2001 07:16 PM

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Well Macro, I would like to try the Eca & Yohimbine HCL, but I can't find it(Yohimbine-HCL) anywhere. I have some of the yohimbe from action labs, but all it seems to do is make me horny as hell!!!!! So, I quit taking it because it's embarrasing to walk around all day with a hard-on!

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macrophage69alpha

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posted February 17, 2001 07:18 PM

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lutylase is pgf2a

most people use pgf and pgf2a interchangably

but all pgf2a are pgf not all pgf are pgf2a

pinching is fine but not necessary

once in am
once in pm

for anabolic effects must be 1/2-1hr after a meal. I am not sure if this applies to fat cell killing effects

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macrophage69alpha

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posted February 17, 2001 07:19 PM

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Orchitis
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'ORCHITIS'

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posted February 17, 2001 07:21 PM

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Great! Thanks to Macro & bigrand for all your help. I appreciate it

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@LRG

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posted February 17, 2001 07:42 PM

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so MACRO whats the difference in shooting it into the muscle and shooting into the fat, and what works better?????

also i have downtime due to surgery on the leg, so no lifting for a while-just healing and physical therapy soon, my question is would this be a good time to take pgf while im healing and not lifting or no?????

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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 17, 2001 07:44 PM

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GOOD LUCK BRO! I AM VERY INTERESTED ON WHAT THE RESULTS OF THIS WILL BE. KEEP US UPDATED

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted February 17, 2001 07:59 PM

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M18, Will Do Bro......Macro, you got mail

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Parabellum

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posted February 17, 2001 09:05 PM

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The hardest thing with PFG2a is actually taking it everyday.

I found I can't take it in the morning becasue I have to shit for up to 2 hours after I injected it. Then I can't eat for fear of shitting. I have a job that I have to move around alot and there is no time to hit the shitter whenever necessary.

At night it's easier becasue I can just stay home and shit.

As to it's effect's, I've been slacking a bit lately so I can't add anything to it's effectiveness.

The last time I shot it I ate alot about an hour before and I was shitting for at least 2 hours. It even woke me for my sleep.

Enjoy the pain.

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WC

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posted February 17, 2001 09:31 PM

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I am VERY interested in this stuff also. Is it waterbased?


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bigrand

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posted February 18, 2001 03:19 AM

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I wasnt aware that there was more than one prostaglandin f. I know there is a prostaglandin e (stay away from it). Keep in mind they are hormones that occur naturally in the body in low amounts. I cant remember the exact proccess (free radical peroxidisation of some acid that starts with an A), these substances arnt completly unknown to the body. Shooting in fat stores takes away from severe pain when injecting in muscle.
Pinch and shoot in any fat store you think of, anywhere on body.
Dont inject in vein, although i think its water based. Macro is correct on the DNP (alas, im allergic to it). Its much faster, but keep in mind it does not kill fat cells. SOme people are geneticly predispositioned to have more white addipose tissue and they will always have more of a problem with being over weight than those with less WAT unless they remove the excess WAT (lipo, somehow induce apoptosis, or find a substance that destroys the cells).
Im gonna use topical Y HCL, oral HCL, and some phenterine if i can get some from my doc along with the PGF2. That should kick the fat's ass!


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