Testosterone production begins at the hypothalamus,which scans blood levels of estrogens,androgens and other pertinent hormones.In a presence of low androgens and estrogens the hypothalamus will produce leutenizing-hormone-releasing-hormone(LHRH)which in turn stimulates the pituitary to produce leutenizing hormone(LH).LH then signals the leydig cells in the testicles to begin producing testosterone.Hence the Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis,as production is ran in that order.Now on to the clomid...

Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator(much like nolvadex,only their binding capacities are more aggressive in seperate areas).Clomid stimulates L-H-R-H/LH production by binding to ESTROGEN receptors on the hypothalamus and pituitary,thus giving the illusion of a low presence of circulating estrogen.Note the key word here-ESTROGEN.CLOMID DOES NOT BIND ANDROGEN.Therefore,on a cycle of moderate to high amounts of ANDROGENS,clomid will have no effect whatsoever on endogenous testosterone production,as we are in a state of ANDROGENIC inhibition.It's post cycle,when blood levels of androgens begin to normalize and the typical estrogenic rebound/lag occurs,that clomid is able to re-initialize this process of testosterone production.Hope this clears up how clomid works and why to save it for post cycle,unless you're using it as an anti-estrogen.---Huck

Day 1)300mgs...2 tabs every 4 hours or so.This will drive up blood levels of the drug for an immediate "therapeutic" response(one that would normally take many consecutive days of usage to be reached)and get the drug working aggressively towards re-initializing endogenous hormonal production.

Days 2-11)100mgs/day(bothtabs can be taken together now,as it's half life is so long it will make no difference...

Days 12-21)50mgs/day...

Good info Huck!Makes the most sense.Thanks

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Originally posted by Daeo:
I'm already shooting bigger loads..

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also i agree w/ a steroid FAQ section--it'd be nice...

----During a cycle for cutting purposes....does clomid cause more water to be retained? Would novaldex be better for eliminating the chance of gyno AND getting rid of excess water?

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Originally posted by BerkeleyJuice:
Hey Huck, if you take proviron at the end also, would you have to take as much Clomid? I was planning on taking 25mg Proviron eod for 2 weeks at the end of my cycle and 50 mg Clomid ed 10 days after my last injection of enathate. What do you thinK?

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Proviron wont help with test production. It is a weak androgen, which will hinder natural test at high levels. A low dose of proviron(25mg to 50mg) will help keep eccess estrogen down and help with errections. Clomid will still be needed at those doses.

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" That which does not kill me, will make me stronger"

Anyway, here's a hypothetical question for you. If HCG works to directly stimulate the leydig cells in the testicles to begin producing testosterone, much like LH does, would using maybe small amounts (2500iu/wk) not be of benefit while on cycle. My train og thought here is that by keeping the testicles stimulated, they wouldn't lay unused for so long, which would quicken there response to the increased LH levels brought about by the clomid.

In other words, HCG to keep you nuts working, clomid to begin to make the other glands of the body work, for the quickest possible recovery.

Bump, in case some guys have some Q's for ya...