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Codawg

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posted February 16, 2001 09:45 PM

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If I take Saw Palmetto to help suppress the conversion to DHT, will I also be suppressing my gains?


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Codawg

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posted February 17, 2001 02:01 AM

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GLP

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posted February 17, 2001 02:35 AM

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Bro saw pammeto is an anti androgen so it will probably supress them sum what but not enough to notice and what would you rather have a little more strenth or your hair. I chose hair.


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cockdezl

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posted February 17, 2001 02:46 AM

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From most of the evidence, Saw Palmetto is not working through 5-AR inhibition, like Finasteride does. The research seems to be pointing to inhibition of androgen binding (DHT AND testosterone) or an alteration of the translocation of the drug/receptor complex or signal transduction process.


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oubeta

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posted February 17, 2001 02:56 AM

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I think saw palmetto inhibits the converson to dyhydrotesterone that will shrink the hair focciles causing the hair to thin or fall out. I've read several studies that show it to be effective in blocking some not all of the conversion.

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ghans

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posted February 17, 2001 03:04 AM

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No. Saw palmetto will help to decrease the conversion of testosterone to DHT. It will not affect your gains in any way.

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted February 17, 2001 09:29 AM

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I have seen studies that claim that Saw Pawlmetto is both a type-I and type-II inhibitor of the 5-alpha reductase isozymes. Like Cockdezl mentioned, I have also seen studies where it is purported to have anti-androgen capabilities.

I don't think it will effect your gains much if any. However, I am suspect on it's ability to stem hairloss also.


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thankgodformexico

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posted February 17, 2001 01:56 PM

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Can u guys tell me where you found these studies on SP? I wouldn't count on it protecting your hair much if at all. If you weren't roiding and you took it for hairloss it MIGHT help a LITTLE but it's not great at all, and won't do shit when on a cycle.


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i2ripped

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posted February 17, 2001 02:44 PM

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I have read several possitive studies on saw palmetto. A good place to read about hairloss and supplements to take in order to help replace or prevent it is at regrowth.com http://www.regrowth.com/treatments.cfm
They discuss, saw palmetto, nizoral, rogaine, spironolactone, and many other things. There is a huge list, and you can also scroll down at the end of each subject for research articles.


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