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Light_weight

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posted February 16, 2001 02:52 PM

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I am 6' 162lbs and 22.I have never taken steroids.I work out like a madman (but just switched to the hardgainer w/out 5 weeks ago).I have taken 4 cycles of cell-tech, 6 months of whey protein(3 times aday) and all the aminos and vitamins you can think of,but still only have received small gains.what can I TAKE or do so i can see some results!PLEASE HELP!
thanks


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Corleone

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posted February 16, 2001 03:03 PM

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dbol

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Statechamp

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posted February 16, 2001 03:32 PM

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Get about 5000 calories per day for 3 months then come back...


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Valdez

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posted February 16, 2001 03:44 PM

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6'0" 162?!?!?!!? get the fuck outa here. the last thing you need is steriods... jesus!!!

fuck man! a flame is one thing a reality check is another. for real!!! dude I out wiegh you by 40lbs and I am 5'7" natural and 9% BF.

you DON'T need roids you need to either up your calories (ya ok you NEED TO!!) or you need to decrease W.O. time (yeah you NEED TO.)

FOR REAL.

like I said are you "for real" or is this anorexic b.s.

flame is one thing... REALITY is another, maybe BB is not your sport MOVE ON.

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Valdez

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posted February 16, 2001 03:49 PM

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btw: I'm an alchoholic and could be at least 10-20% bigger if I didn't drink. not trying to be a dick but if genetics aren't up your alley forget BB.

seriously.

I love elitefitness but BRO you belong on the training board not the A.S. board.


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Light_weight

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posted February 16, 2001 03:49 PM

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if i ate that (5000)cal. i would get fat, trust me i know my body. but i'm eatting about 3200 right now though you think i should bump it up alittle?????


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Solid Steel

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posted February 16, 2001 03:50 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Statechamp:
Get about 5000 calories per day for 3 months then come back...

Thank you


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Valdez

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posted February 16, 2001 03:53 PM

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I'm all about BB for health but 160 at your hieght is "pathetic" and does not warrant a.s. use "forget about it"

seriously...


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Valdez

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posted February 16, 2001 03:57 PM

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"what do you consider fat?" you need to up calories... 3200 sounds good on "paper" for someone your size but obviously it's not going good...

how much protein do you consume? how's your diet? you use flax oil? you use protein supps? you workout for 45-60min with extreme intensity? do you... etc. etc.

there are many variables. a.s. is NOT an answer to your probs it is a "crutch" it is an assistance substance... it is a "supplement"

yes.

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anabolic24/7

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posted February 16, 2001 03:58 PM

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Light_weight,
You will put on some fat if you are eating enough to put on muscle. Start eating and try to put on 40-50 lbs. in the next year. If you are working out most of that weight will be muscle. Some will be fat, so then you diet. You can't stay real lean and get big at the same time, even with assistance.


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Beezers

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posted February 16, 2001 05:07 PM

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Food is the best anabolic for you now. Nothing is more anabolic than calories. Eat more and you will grow. Foccus on proper diet and you will see results. Change your training and diet and see what your body responds to. Training like a "madman" doesn't guarantee results nor does downing protein shake after protein shake. It sounds as though you have a lot to learn about the far more important aspects of this game like training and diet before you consider AS.

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Marty McFly

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posted February 16, 2001 05:31 PM

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Oh yeah, dont forget to read some of the post on the board as well as use that Search archives option.

KNOWLEDGE IS KING


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rainhorn

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posted February 16, 2001 05:33 PM

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you can gain a lot more solid gains from a good diet and exercise,you wont need it yet


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