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Shawn

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posted February 16, 2001 02:30 AM

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As some of you know, I had a hard time (still do) getting over the reason i couldnt grow from my first cycle or my current one. They were just tested real. i started moderate at first, then moved heavier. well, i dont know what else to think, but i'm going to try a new 4 week short burst blitz.

800mg prop eod, 150mg fina eod, 100mg dbol ed
my diet will be eating 5 solid meals, and 5 protein shakes, about 500grams protein (250 from food, 250 from shakes), and about 400grams carbs, and about 100grams fat. so that equates to about 4600 cals. right now my diet is shitty, and i am sick, this week it seems like i am eating EOD. i wont start this cycle until i have everything in place and feel good. any suggestions?


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 02:38 AM

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800mg Prop eod - is it a typo?


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Shawn

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posted February 16, 2001 02:39 AM

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no.


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 03:37 AM

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2800mg of Prop
525mg of Fina
700mg dbol
You should grow on it.It's just the volume of injections is gonna be pain in a ass.5cc every day for 4 weeks,are you sure,you wanna do it? That's a lot of pain and discomfort.
If I were you,I rather do 12 weeks cycle,start with mass builders,like Suspension/Dbol/Deca on a base of Aratest(or any other long ester) all in high doses,do it for 6 weeks,then drop Dbol and Suspension and add Fina(ed is better then eod,BTW)and Winny.Also,T3(25mcg/ed)through the whole cycle.
More protein,more calories,more fat,lower carbs.Just my point of view.


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Shawn

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posted February 16, 2001 04:47 AM

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the reason being short, is just that i dont know what i respond to, its simply trial and error, and i am trying everything to see what will work. about the injections, i am a lucky person to be getting designer products. prop at 200mg/ml, dbol at 30mg/tab, fina is 75mg/ml, so its 6cc eod, no biggie, i currently take in about 21 cc per week.


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 04:55 AM

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Nice! How much do you pay for Prop,if not a secret?
I would run it at least 8 weeks,or cut doses in half,if you are scared,even those are not scary.
Don't forget that faster you gain,faster you lose.All the systems in your body,nervous first,simply can't support those new muscles,they need some time,to build up accordingly.
Are you planning on Arimidex and/or Clomid?


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 04:58 AM

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Also,if you have such a hard time,gaining,I suggest insulin.


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MeanOne

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posted February 16, 2001 05:24 AM

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800mgs of propinate huh? Boy do I feel sorry for your ass! You realize how much pain your talking about. I'm not sure if injecting a little lidocain in with it would help or not? Otherwise, I like, but be sure to have an anti estrogen in pentiful amounts on hand! That's much test, in such a short acting preperation will cuase a sudden spike...which then causes sudden conversion...which will cause you to suddenly have to go bra shopping! Othere than that, I like it. It looks a lot like some of my short cycles except twice as long. I agree with panerai for the most part.


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Solid Steel

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posted February 16, 2001 05:32 AM

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Shawn ever heard the expression Rome wasn't built in a day?

Apply that principle to your body and you might get somewhere. You are currently in the middle of a strong cycle and you are going to stop it and change it to this. If you arent growing on what you are currently on then the problem is not the gear. Just a thought! Take time off allow for your body to reach normal hormonal balance and then think of another cycle.


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 05:41 AM

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MeanOne,not to touch your mean side,just curious,what part of what I said,you are not agree with?


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madmitch

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posted February 16, 2001 05:43 AM

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Shawn if you are having a hard time eating enough food, maybe you could try Glucophage.

Taking tons of steroids and not eating enough food is not going to help you grow.

I've heard that quite a few Spanish bodybuilders swear by Glucophage for increasing their Appetite and I have been planning to try it for some time now. Unfortunatley it is not readily available over here.

Dianabol increases my appetite for about 4-5 weeks then the effect seems to wear off. When I first used Testosterone it did increase my appetite, but for some reason it no longer has this effect on me.

Personally I think this is why Dianabol works so well, because when I'm on it I feel hungry all the time.

There seem to be very few other steroids that have the same effect, I've heard Equipose is good for increasing the Appetite although I haven't tried it yet.

As for taking 5 protein shakes per day I think that is a waste of money. When I look back to when I made my best gains in body weight, it was when I was mostly using whole foods. I'm beginning to think that Whey Protein is an expensive form of glucose.


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panerai

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posted February 16, 2001 05:48 AM

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I don't know about Metformin(Glucophage)I was advocating it myself recently,but after reading Animal's article about it,on AF board,I think,I rather use insulin.BTW,check article on insulin on NuclearNutrition,the title is "Interveiw with Pro-x" or something close to that,I don't remember exactly.


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Shawn

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posted February 16, 2001 07:00 AM

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sorry i forgot to mention, i will have arimidex and clomid, i will be using insulin as well. right now i am just feeling like shit, goddamn throat is so sore, i cant even swallow my own saliva and im taking all the medications to fight it and they dont work! anyways, i guess i am not growing right now because my diet is shitty but in my first cycle, i ate alot. this cycle starts i guess after 2 cycles of dnp with insulin, just to lose some fat, but i must agree, the eq is making me more vascular in my arms. still though, on dbol and cyp, strength never went through the roof, and no size. guess its the food.


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DREXX

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posted February 16, 2001 01:19 PM

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madmitch:

What the hell are you talking about???

Glucophage AKA Metformin does the contrary it slows gastric emptying. The reason I stopped taking it is because you don't have no appetite whatsoever while using it.

Insulin lowers your blood glucose and then you get hungry. Metformin doesn't work the same way.

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KINGKONG69

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posted February 16, 2001 04:37 PM

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DONT USE THOSE DESIGNER STERIODS, THEYRE NOT WORTH THE RISK IN MY OPINION. IVE TRIED THEM, TOOK 500mg A WEEK OF SUS, FOR 10 WEEKS AND IT DID NOTHIN. I GAINED 15lbs FROM DECA.
TRY SOME REAL SHIT AND SEE IF ANYTHING CHANGES.


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