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Cool Novice 
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Whats up list, I'm 22, 6'and 160lbs. I've been thinking about starting a deca cycle for a while now. my friend who was a cop took 100mg a week and it worked great(he got fired though for taking them, lol) anyway i was wondering what all do i need for the cycle, i've read some talk on clomid do i need that and what else would you guys recommend i take. any ideas would help alot! THANKS    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 547 |
that seems just a tiny bit of deca to me..you will probably get told to bump it up ------------------  | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1583 |
100mg a week will do next to nothing. You will need clomid also. I would suggest minimum 300 mg a week , 400 would be ideal for you. I would also recommend some testosterone for a nice stack , specifically enanthate at a minimum of 400 mg a week. You haven't stated what your looking to do here, you wanna bulk and add 20 pounds or so , or are you just looking for maybe 10 or 15 solid pounds. If your set on only using deca , thats fine my first cycle was deca only, i had exceptional results. I would run the cycle a minimum of 8 weeks, 12 being ideal in my eyes. ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 177 |
Decaman, I can't believe you say that you need at least 300 to make good gains... You know that if you get your diet 100% right then 200mg/week will do wonders. Although 100mg/week is really close to the medical dosage for wasting. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1583 |
Define good gains please. ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1013 |
I AGREE WITH DECAMAN, YOU WILL BE MUCH HAPPEIR WITH 300-400MG/WEEK RATHER THEN 100-200MG. IF YOU WANT TO BULK YOU COULD THROW IN SOME TEST AND D-BOL OR IF YOU WANT TO CUT YOU COULD DO A DECA, WINNY STACK. DECA AND WINNY IS A VERY GOOD STACK FOR QUALITY MUSCLE AND MAYBE A LITTLE CUTS, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR GOALS AND DIET. YOU WILL NEED CLOMID POST CYCLE THOUGH. M18 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
Good gains would be 10-15 pounds of gains and 8-10 pounds keps of LBM. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Guru     
Posts: 5064 |
My definition of good gains for first cycle = 20#'s Great gains = 25+#'s ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1583 |
For a first cycle! His body will never respond as well again! He is 160 bro, good gains for him is 20 pounds. What good is it to spend 8-12 weeks and go from 160 - 168! Sorry you wont find any support for that theory on this board or any other. Anywhere you read up on deca it will tell you the same thing 2mg per pound of bodyweight is ideal. Take into account for it being slightly underdosed and at 160 he should use 400 mg, 300 minimum. First cycle = most important cycle. He can take your advice and put on 5 pounds or mine and put on 20+. It is his choice. THis is in no way meant as a flamem i completely disagree with you though ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
i'm looking for like 10-12lbs that will stay on me. i'm kind of on a buget since im up at college. is it possible to take 150mg of deca? and is it also a must to have clomid? THANKS | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
I do not subscribe to the "best gains on the first cycle theory". I saw a guy use primo at 200 for the first cycle get 15 pounds, then do Deca/d-bol for 35 pounds...I have also seen similar resuts. The loss of gains is probably due to psychological and attitude differences. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1013 |
CLOMID IS A MUST WHEN YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT WILL SHUT DOWN YOUR NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION. IT IS POSSABLE TO TAKE 150MG/WEEK OF DECA BUT I WOULD NOT WASTE IT, YOUR RESULTS WILL BE MINIMAL. I WOULD WAIT TILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GO WITH 300-400 A WEEK AND YOU WILL BE MUCH HAPPER WITH THE RESULTS M18 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
No he didn't. I told him not to get involved in my discussions. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
how long do you have to take clomid for and how much a day?\ THANKS | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1583 |
Bro not for nothing , but if you asked around you would find your advice would not be acceptable to many, those dosages are way too low, 200mg is for joint relief as far as i am concerned, not for a first cycle of steroids. ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1013 |
TAKE THE CLOMID ABOUT 7-10 DAYS AFTER THE LAST SHOT OF DECA, START WITH 100MG/DAY FOR 1ST WEEK THEN 50MG/DAY THE NEXT WEEK, AND 50MG/EVERY OTHER DAY FOR THE FINAL WEEK. HOPE THIS HELPS M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
alright so if i take 150-200mg for 8 weeks that should do something right? then take clomid to protect my ballz and that should be that? is there anything else i need to know? sorry im being a bitch | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
50 mgs. - 30 Tabs $ 18 thats how much i can get clomid for, so that means it would cost $430 that ain't right...... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 583 |
quote: Dude...C'mon...try the math again. Later | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
all right i'm stupid | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1654 |
Some individuals may make "reasonable" gains off a 200mg/wk cycle. Though 10lbs is an extremely high value for such a cycle. Such an individual would: A. have to respond exceeding well to DECA B. Have really good genetics C. Probably be under- trained D. Not get progestenic suppression of the pituitary. BUT SUCH RESULTS ARE POSSIBLE peace ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
200mg of Decca per week? Why bother? 400mg at least esp on 1st cycle.Anything less would be a waste of time and money.Also statechamp mentioned it's possible if your diet is 100% right.Whose diet is 100% right? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
100-200mg of DECA a week. That's a joke right? Save your gear until you have enough for a 400mg/week cycle like Ulter and Decaman told you.(BTW Ulter that was some funny shit in your post). You'll get MUCH better results. Macro is correct in the fact that you'd have to be very, very undertrained to grow of this amount. Everyone here is going to tell you the same thing. Forget about statechamp and 2Thick, they're either physiological abherrations or psychologically disturbed if they state they can grow on as little as 200mg/week of deca. Godspeed | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
Light_weight,This is just a word to the wise bro,you need to alot more research before you stick a pin in your butt.AAS is only part of the equation.There's goals,diet-how many calories are you going to consume,what is your buget for food? Food is more anabolic that gear! what about your training schedule and your questions on clomid indicates you still have much research to do.I realize we all have to start somewhere.But remember,it's your body and it's your responsibility to research,read all the posts and understand what it is that you are going to do to it.Good luck Bro. PS: use the search button at the top of the page. Also check out anabolicreview.com | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
Touche Mr. 2Thick. But, I've been using 600mg/week for the past 4 weeks. Just injected 1000mg today for my 2 week experiment. But, to answer your question 26 people in my track team attempted deca at a low dose. And the vote was unanimous: Deca sucks at low dosages!! Now, if you were to add RU-486 this might be a different story. 2Thick, Deca at 200mg/week doesn't work because the inherent rise in progesterone blocks decas anabolic activity. The ony way I could see it working is(I think Macro mentioned this) if the individual in question had an amazing resistance to progesterone or/if he took RU-486 to block the rise in progesterone. Godspeed [This message has been edited by Fonz (edited February 16, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1654 |
several incorrect assumptions DECA does NOT increase progesterone Progesterone does NOT inhibit anabolism Progestenic resistance is soemthing that does not exist peace ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
IF YOU LIKE YOUR DICK TO GET HARD DON'T DO DECA ALONE,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION. I DID IT BY ITSELF AND COULDN'T GET A FUCKING HARD ON FOR ABOUT A MONTH AFTERWARDS, I'LL NEVER TOUCH THE SHIT AS LONG AS I LIVE. IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT STACK IT WITH TEST OR SOMETHING ELSE | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
Fine Macro, here goesL Deca is a progestin. If you inject i,t it is going to bind to the progestenic sites. Conclusion: rise in progesterone...... Secondly, progesterone does inhibit anabolism through a rise in cortisol(protein breakdown). Protein Synthesis is not affected though. Thirdly and lastly, somebody CAN have a resistance to progesterone if their binding sites are anomalous. Godspeed | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1654 |
RU-486 sold under the trade name mifeprex is NOT available OTC in the UK. If I need say more, please let me know.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
Bumpin' it for the morning crew | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
alright so I guess i need to take 300-400mg of deca you get any results. so my last question is; is there anything else i could that that would be better than deca? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 89 |
In my last cycle I went up to 75mgs every 5 days and I'm a female!!! Had great results but if I'm a woman, then and taking that dosage then you definitely need to get higher dosages. Deca has very low sides at 300 (if any sides) so for a guy, definitely GO UP!! Good luck! AJ | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1583 |
I think not. Are you baiting me heh heh. We can argue this on messenger if you like ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 239 |
In over 40 posts and no one has mentioned that at 6 foot tall, 160lbs & 22 yrs old you shouldnt (in general be using anabolic steroids). Shame on you people! Dont worry I am awaiting the flames but common sense shows its ugly head | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
I agree with you Solid Steel, at his stats, I think he should wait a bit more and do a better research on roids. Peace... | ||
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Novice
Posts: 8 |
I did Normas 2ML for 6 wks and gained 8 lbs of lbm. Didn't expect to gain anything since my previous cycle was sus250 and deca for 6 weeks. Plus, the thing about deca dick........that's all in the individuals MIND! In my opinion I suggest atleast 200mg and eat good too. I think you'll be satisfied with the results. Just my .02 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
COPYED=I agree with you Solid Steel, at his stats, I think he should wait a bit more and do a better research on roids. Thats what i'm trying to do gather info, i don't plan on buying any for a month or so or until i know what the hell im talking about. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 55 |
I have seen GREAT 1st cycle results with: | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 20 |
Lightweight I am new to AS myself but I would probably suggest that you use some kind of test for your first cycle or maybe sust. Thats waht I did I got a solid 16 lbs and that was with only about 400 mg a week of test cyp. I am 5'6" and 195 lbs now. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
300mg a week of deca first time is about right, i perosnally gained 14lb of LBM first cycle, i was on for 6 weeks, personally i think it is irresposible to recommend using test first cycle, use it for second or beyond, you dont need thr stronger stuff at first unless your genetics are poor. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 169 |
Personally, I'm getting sick and tired of the StateChamp telling everyone that they are usning or are planning to use too much juice. You're a fucking pussy, so shut your 200 mg pipe hole. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 547 |
quote: how about sus at 500 mg/week for 8 weeks..might even end up being cheaper than the deca was/will be. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 20 |
All I have to say about this is that if you are able to make significant gains off of 200mg per week, your genetics are incredible and technically you have no need for AS assistance. If you don't gain when off, it basically means you have not a clue of what you are doing in the gym. Sorry if it sounds blunt, but it is true. The only thing 200mg per week is going to accomplish is money wasted and pissed off newbies. |
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