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JUICEMONKEY2001

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posted February 15, 2001 01:08 PM

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i gettin winny this weekend should i take it everyday or EOD...i am takin it alone so wish me luck..thanks


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2EZ2BRICH

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posted February 15, 2001 01:10 PM

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i did 100mg EOD bro ! you have to get milk thistle or Liv52. good luck bro ! my 2cc...hehehehe


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lawnsaver

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posted February 15, 2001 01:13 PM

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If you are shooting, then take 100mg eod. If you are drinking it, then drink 25mg 2 times a day

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Fonz

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posted February 15, 2001 01:15 PM

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LUVS2JUICE STOP POSTING
STUPID THREADS

Godspeed


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littlearnold1069

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posted February 15, 2001 01:44 PM

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i say 50 mg ED

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The Man Child

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posted February 15, 2001 02:23 PM

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Ahh my favorite topic....

Winny alone should be taken ED regardless of how you chose to take it. I prefer PaperStrol, its the cheapest, most effective, and cleanest in my opinion of all the winny products (including Zambon).

If you decide to shoot, 50mg ED, rotate shoulders and each side on your ass.

Everyone always says to take winny for 6 weeks. Winny is just getting into full swing in 6 weeks. Take it for atleast 8 weeks and 10 weeks would be even better. I have had friends who take it for 6 weeks EOD and get shitty results. Then I have friends who take it for 6 weeks 50mg ED and get nice results. Then I take it for 10 weeks 50mg ED and gain 15lb. every fu@#in' time. I love the shit!!!

P.S. take the milk thistle And eat big time, do you cardio, but eat and eat and eat!!


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Jeff_rys

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posted February 15, 2001 02:31 PM

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I am waiting for my 12 boxes Zambon coming from Spain, planning on taking 100 mgr/ED for 3 weeks (6 days a week equal 36 amps).
Will take milk tistle like crazy.
If good results, i will post it (if the Zambon ever gets here of course).

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JohnnyD

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posted February 15, 2001 02:34 PM

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I take it daily, and will be agian next cycle at 100mg a day.

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The Man Child

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posted February 15, 2001 02:36 PM

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Jeff that is the dumbbest thing I've ever read. You spent all that money on Zambons and you only bought 3 weeks worth. What's the point. Your the reason Winny gets such a bad name. Nobody uses it correctly. Three weeks aint gunna do shit buddy. You should just send them over my way and I'll use them correctly Either get more or don't even bother...


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Fonz

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posted February 15, 2001 03:13 PM

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The Man child, you are totally incorrect.
100mg/day of winny will yield moderate
muscle gains. To Jeff_Rys, I have
experimented with winny for a long
time. Highest anabolic/muscle-building
ability is reached at a dosage of 1.6mg/Kg
in my case. I have gone as high as 200mg/ED.
Instead of using it for three weeks, increase
the dosage and use it for two. 3-4lbs/week is
possible at a high dosage.

Godspeed


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TxRugby_8

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posted February 15, 2001 03:16 PM

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in my opinon and think most everyone else's opinion whinny is a drug you have to stack with something else to see good if any results. and at 3 weeks you will probably see next to nothing. save up some money and buy something else to stack it with like fina or sumpin. just my .02 cheers


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The Man Child

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posted February 15, 2001 06:45 PM

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All I'm saying is that 3 weeks is not long enough to yield quality results. He would be better off taking 50mg ED for 6 weeks rather than 100mg ED for 3 weeks.

I agree Winny works fantastic stacked with something, however, it is not necassary to be stacked, even if its not your first cycle.

Its the whole misconception about 17aa drugs that everyone has. You're only supposed to be on Dbol and Anadrol for 4-5 weeks. Well newsflash, Anavar and Winny are the exception and need to be taken twice as long. They are relatively safe drugs unlike dbol and anadrol. Take them for 8 - 10 weeks and reep the benefits from your drugs.


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TxRugby_8

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posted February 16, 2001 10:05 AM

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EXACTLY


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mjp0504

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posted February 16, 2001 01:56 PM

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I may not be an extremely experienced veteran, but have personally gained 10 lbs. of winny, all that I kept, the first cycle I have ever done. I did another and gained another 8 pounds. Through research, I have found that winny is as strong anabolically as anadrol, and much safer, when taken at least 50mg ed..


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Cuts

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posted February 16, 2001 03:20 PM

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TheManChild: I'm new to AS use and this is only my second cycle for which my goals are to lose fat (I'm at a disgusting 22%) and get cut. I'm taking 200mg/week Primo and 50mg EOD Winstrol for 12 weeks. Are you saying that that's not enough Winny for me? Should I take 50mg ED? Should I take 25mg ED instead? Thanks.

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MeanOne

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posted February 16, 2001 03:43 PM

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I could very easily combat that post about liver issues when consuming 17aa steriods, but I have already posted the study, so I will just say this. No increase in liver enzyme counts were found amoungst 4 17aa class drugs in a 10 week clinical study of 215 test subjects.
I agree with Fonz, being that I'm a short cycle advocate, that good gains can be acheived quickly. Winstrol has a very short life in the bloodsteam 4-6 hours after ingestion at max, so there is no reason that it wouldn't take sudden effect.
I'm not so sure I agree with the paperstol thing, but I have seen a variety of opinions, but it's a personal thing.

Later


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Jeff_rys

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To the Man's Child and Fonz: here is why. When i take roids i get high BP and prostate problems, so that's why the 3 weeks. Also i got a prescription from my doc for only 12 boxes. I live in Belgium and it has to be sent to Spain, and this is a try-out, to see if the stuff gets here. Still i am planning to do only short cycles and if that doesn't help, then stopping with roids will be the answer. Also the plan is to use it together with PGF2a and shot locally in delts and arms to see if then the PGF will give permanent muscle growth.

Also i really have problems with my liver doing Winny. During the cycle i will have to stop drinking wine at dinner, that will be very hard to do after all those years of doing so.
My liver is not up to 6-8 weeks.
So i will follow Fonz's advice and go for it for 3 cc/day for 2 weeks (6 days a week).

Hopefully, i will gain ANYTHING on it, hate to do it without result.

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The Man Child

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posted February 16, 2001 06:32 PM

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To the guy that is doing Primo and Winny. Dosage all depends on your experience. The main thing I'm stressing is taking it EVERY DAY. If that means you're only taking 25mg ED than that's what it means.

Short Cycle that lasts 3 weeks??? Hello, dumbass, short cycles are supposed to last for no longer than 14 days. 21 day cycle is no longer a short cycle it is just a really poorly planned out regular cycle.

-PaperStrol uses the best raw materials anywhere. When you consider its twice as cheap as Zambon and just as effective, its a no brainer. I won't even go into why I would never by Stanazolic by Jurox or Denkal or any other shitty winny product out there. Winny powder seems like the best bet, but do you really want to have to go through that hastle? I don't....


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Jeff_rys

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posted February 17, 2001 12:10 PM

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sorry, but i am not a dumbass.
I was planning for a 3 week cycle because i would had gear for 3 weeks, but especially and only when gaining on it and being at it for 2 weeks, it would be hard to stop. That's why the extra week.
And if you want to be the smartest on EF, then you give me the exact Winny+PGF cycle to gain ANYTHING.
Please stop calling me names, i am not doing this to you either.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 17, 2001 12:33 PM

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Man child-Jeff is a well respected veteran member of this board.IF YOU CAN'T STATE YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT RESORTING TO PERSONAL INSULTS,THEN DO NOT POST-PERIOD.GOT IT?


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The Man Child

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posted February 17, 2001 12:54 PM

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Huck, how did I disrespect anyone? His cycle doesn't seem to be planned out correctly. I may have gotten a little carried away, but hey, I'm on a cycle right now and get a little fired up from time to time. So anyway, good luck with your cycle.....


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 17, 2001 12:59 PM

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Calling someone a DUMBASS because you may not agree with what they are doing is a PERSONAL INSULT...Refrain from calling people derogatory names.Debate all you want,just keep it clean please...


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Jeff_rys

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posted February 17, 2001 01:14 PM

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Again to put it straight. Anyone reading my "PGF2a review of my second cycle" here or on the AF board will know that i am planning to use PGF with Winny together which is a total different ball game.
I never will do a 2,3 or 8 weeks Winny alone (again).
If doing this cycle and after 2 weeks there would not be decent gains, i would stop (logic no?). But if gains where there i would go further, but only for a week since i would only have gear for another week.

Thanks to Fonz i changed my mind to do 3 cc's a day for 2 weeks (with PGF of course).
If results would be satisfying, i would stop for 4 weeks (ONLY with the Winny) and go at it again, this time 4 cc's fo Winny a day to see what gives. All the time PGF will still be taking non-stop.
Unless high BP, prostate problems, hair falling out, or if i can't take it anymore i would stop.
I am not saying this is smart to do.
Believe me this is planned out, but nobody can give me good advice on this, since there is no background for such a cycle.

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