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 Conan69-I am with you my friend
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Deca sux, period. Even at 600mgs per week, there were no significant gains but contributed to a hell of alot of acne. I'm a believer now. ------------------     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 141 |
Bump for Conan ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1877 |
My thoughts exactly, nice to have some back on this issue for a change!!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 518 |
FUCK THAT!!! I'm so wired right now it's hard to type. 1000mg DECA in my quad..... I feel sooooo damn strong.... Deca rules.... Boulder, Conan, test sucks(thats from 18 other players too) BUMP for 2THICK defend the cause... Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
Everyone loves Dbol though  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 564 |
What in Gods green earth is this thread all about ? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 647 |
Deca is the only AS that gives me acne(severe) and sore swollen nipples. I will never touch it again. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 60 |
Yep Deca sucks the big one. Worse acne and hair loss for me...... I agree Kooky....thumbs up for Dbol | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
Well, I prefer test, or really anything that doesn't cause progesterone gyno. I'm very sensative to that crap, and it sucks because I can't even take fina at 75mgs eod. FUCK!!!! I'll just stick to test, Eq, and etc. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
quote: Cannot say it sucks if you have never used it | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 322 |
Deca is good because it helps the joints a lot! My shoulders have never been better since I did my first cycle of Deca (and it was a low dose too). Also, the recovery after a workout is amazing! I did a Deca only cycle for my 1st cycle and I only got mild acne at the end of my cycle and that was probably due to the Clomid? And NO I didn't get Deca-Dick! Cheers, Jay | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Solid Steel shut up! I used andriol at high dosages(Test.undecanoate), which converts to test, and i got a lot of acne on my back. NoNe with 600mg/week DECA these past few weeks with Ru-486 i HAVE zero ACNE. I think RU-486 might have some anti-bacterial activity in males......maybe through a decrease in gluco- corticoids?..... Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 322 |
Ok Fonz...I've been away from the board for a while (2-3 months?) Is RU486 getting easier to come by? Also what are the doses, etc. Thanks, Jay | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 647 |
Yes, sore free joints and fast recovery rate is far superior to any other AS, but to me not worth the progesteronic side affects. Every steroid has its strengths and weakness, I won't say I hate Deca , but I won't use it again. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
I am with Conan69 & Boulder on this one. I used Deca at 400mg-600mg/week and all the sides I got from it outweighed the benefits, ie.,acne, deca dick. My girlfried was like what the F#$* is wrong, is it me? Try explaining that one to a female. InstantGrowth | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 322 |
What would you guys say a good (non test)replacement be for Deca? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
I have a feeling Deca Dick is counter-acted by RU-486. Been using it at 1mg/Kg everyday and I'm still horny as always. Victorias secret underwear does it everytime for me on Valentine's.... But, I disgress, Ru-486, normally seels for $10-15 for a 200mg pill on the street. But, since I live in the UK and this drug is OTC now, I get it for $1.50 a pill. Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 647 |
Primo or Eq | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 163 |
Have any of you ever thought that your individual bodies respond differently to test vs. deca???????????? | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2154 |
quote: lol | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1047 |
Hey Fonz..andriol is considered a joke..it's effects are closer to andro than a good ol fashion injectable test..deca is ok though, it compliments test nicely, is great for alleviating joint pain, but I'd never choose it over test enth. | ||
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Guru     
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lol this is humorous. I suspect anyone who had to choose between a gram of deca or a gram of test, the choice would be easy. I don't hate deca, I just don't use it - I get good results off of EQ and don't deal with some of the issues that us "HYPER-SENSATIVE" to progesterone like effects get. I hope ru-486 works well, I am excited about that and maybe that will open up some doors to higher doses but right now Id say no contest Id rather have test in high doses than deca. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Krusher, I understand your reticence and the fact that andriol has a bad rep. But, 5 months ago I tried a mega dose of andriol. Before this mega cycle I tried 6 caps abdriol/day(240mg/d) and didn't get good results. However, I jacked it up to 20tabs a day for good measure(800mg/day) and got very good results, except for the back acne I experienced. BTW, 800mg/d=5600mg/week Then, if 80% gets destroyed in the intestines, 1120mg test is then converted. So, I have' gone over a gram of test a week for everybodies info... I'll take Deca over test ANYTIME OF THE WEEK!! still waiting for you 2Thick........ Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 65 |
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
FatRat, yes you can. Just make sure you say its for your girlfriend. They normally sell it in packages. If they ask, just tell them that you girlfriend is less than 7 weeks pregnant. RU-486 was designed for abortions regarding fetuses less than 49 days old.... Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 65 |
LOL, I was just in Boots this morning trying to explain to the woman behind the counter that the syringes I wanted where for a Pneumatics project! I think I'll go to a different place this time! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1047 |
Fonz..I urge you to take a gram of test enth every 6 days and tell me how much more potent that is than either deca or andriol..I know you are open minded so please just give injectable test a chance, there is no way you'll get better results from deca..I know this has been hammered to death already.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 230 |
deca sucks! Too expensive, too weak for the cost! Too many fakes. Rather use EQ, or Dbol! GOD I LOVE DBOL. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
Fonz stop talking shit. About 2 weeks ago you have never used an injectable. Now all of a sudden you are on 1000mgs of deca and are critisizing test when you have only ever used andriol. I dont believe one word that comes out of your mouth not after the can I inject with a cattle implant gun? You must be 15 yrs old to ask such a question. I will not argue with you anymore because you are one of the ones who are always right. I also questioned you about eq and you said you have only been on it for 1 wk. When was this? You mentioned nothing about it in your posts. So now you are using eq and deca? Can you make up your mind. How can someone listen to anything you say if you have only ever been on deca & that has only been for 2 or 3 weeks. Oh and according to Macro RU 486 is not available OTC yet! Well Said Krusher | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 89 |
I think Andriol only has a bioavailability of around 98%. The rest goes to waste. That's what I've always read at least. It's a shitty steroid that offers little benefit to bodybuilders and that stuff is way overpriced. 60 caps are usually 60-80 bucks. Money must be no object to you at 20-25 bucks a day on Andriol unless you have an unreal hookup. Also who's right on the RU-486 issue. You or Macro? Is it OTC or not? later. | ||
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Cool Novice 
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fonzy, you're turning in to be quite the character around here acording to this what you are taking is large doses of progesterone and estrogen, you may want to stop! lol here's the link: [This message has been edited by white boy (edited February 16, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1877 |
quote: Fonz my lad, oh my what can i say...Test is the bread and butter for every BB that knows what he is doing, it is THE steroid. Nothing can compare i am sorry but that was a completly ridiculous statement ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
No offense Solid Steel, but if people told you to jump of a building, would you do it? Damn, geta brain. I'm not here to just acquiesce with the status quo, I'm here to debate what works and what doesn't and for who. There is no final conclusion regarding steroids. Everybody is different. While some of you(probably most from what i've read) swear by test, I seem to react better to Deca. That's just me. In the long run we're here to discuss how each of us can better ourselves in the best way. In my case, I'm going the Deca way. Is that so hard to understand? You can keep pestering me about the implant gun all the time if you like, but does that really make me stupid? I think not. You get a needle stuck in your arm when 11, then come to me to talk about needle phobia then. I might have a strong opinion on certain subjects, but when I'm wrong I say I a am wrong. Its incedible how inflated egos get around here. No offense to anyone in particular, but having done a few cycles or having posted a lot of posts doesn't make you the be-all end-all expert. As far as the EQ is concerned, I mentioned it in on one of my posts. I said I took 5 cc's( 2cc's deca and 3cc'ss eq). So Solid Steel please read my posts if you're going to call me a liar. As far as the RU-486 is concerned, Macro is partially correct. It non-OTC in some areas, and OTC in others. Ethical reasons is why this is so. In the UK the pro-life peope are generating quite a bit of controversy over this issue. I was a bit rude to Macro on his RU-486 thread, but that was because he was subtly calling me a liar. Which I will not tolerate. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
No offence taken. Now may I pay back the compliment? I will do regardless. You are nothing less than amazing. How can you be so blind oh ok solid I am here to debate! WTF? Let me point out a few things and they are Fact You are nothing but a comedian who can use the English language structually to make people think you have knowledge. You are going on the feedback of your friends. Everyone is different. They flamed the shit out of you on the chat board. I wonder why. In fact a vet or 2 here have done that as well. NOW SUMMING UP. DO NOT FUCKING DEBATE THAT YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH. THIS IS THE SAME AS A BLIND MAN LEADING A GUIDE DOG. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
I like Test! Hey Krusher! | ||
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Moderator
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Fonz-You know I enjoy your posts and theories.You're intelligence is a much welcomed asset to this board.That being said,NO AMOUNT OF ANDRIOL CAN BE COMPARED TO INJECTIBLE SYTHETIC TEST...Andriol's conversion to usable,bindable test at ANY dosage is at best,pathetic.So please,do not make comparisons with orally administered test and injectible synthetics,it is just not comparable whatsoever.Mg per mg,test will always out perform deca for one very simple reason-Deca is a potent agonist of the A/R,more so than test.BUT-Deca has almost ZERO activities in non-A/R mediated mechanisms,whereas test has very powerful activities in BOTH realms.This is an indisputable FACT.Once you have used a large amount of INJECTIBLE test,you will know with certainty what I'm talking about.Nothing else compares as a single,stand-alone drug... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Ok, I've read all your posts regarding the pros/cons of test, and they are enlightening. Huck, you're probably right on the Andriol issue. I'm in a different boat than most people because I don't think anyone has gone as high as I have on the andriol dosage. But, biochemistry tells me inj.test will beat oral andriol any day of the week. I just took andriol because it was the only option open to me. Solid Steel, I've been on inj. Deca for 4 weeks now. Just because I don't post when I inject and what I'm doing for breakfast,lunch, or dinner, doesn't give you the right to say I don't have any idea what I'm doing. If you agree so much with the chatboard people, why don't you do all of us a favour and join them? You can flame me to hell and back, but in the end you'll just be another unhappy person. I am happy with what I am doing, which should ultimately be everybodies goal in the long run. One thing we don't need on this board is big Egos. No wonder people are leaving... we alienate them constantly. PS: I'm here to learn, not alienate people. You should re-consider your attitude. Godspeed to you ST | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Just for the record solid steel, you will never come close to the dosages I used orally. I may not be an expert in the practical use of inj. steroids, but take my word for it, I AM AS FAR AS ORALS ARE CONCERNED. I have both the technical and practical knowledge here. 3.5 years of oral use attests to this. So before you flame me further in the ignorant way you are so used to, please do your homework. Having done inj. for only 4 weeks previously does not make me stupid. 4 years of university speaking here not just my ego. I'm not normally so forward in as far as my education is concerned, but you are attacking my intelligence and integrity, and that is unacceptable. Once you get your masters in a physiological field, THEN and only THEN will you be able to flame me. No disrespect to anyone else. Godspeed | ||
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Mutant
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Although If I had to use one or the other, I'd choose test, I think deca really complements test well. I really helps your joints in being able to deal with the heavier poundages you will be using to to the increased hypertrophy caused by each compound. Having said that, I like the muscle hardening effects of EQ a little better, so my upcoming stack will probably consist of test, EQ, and probably tren. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
Fonz I do not boast or nor do I need too about who has taken more orals. That is childish to say the least. You of course used more orals than me. You havent ever been on an injectable cycle before. Stick with the discussion and not the irrelevants pieces of info. DO NOT SAY TEST SUCKS IF YOU HAVENT USED IT. END OF STORY! You have used andriol and read what Mr Finnaplex said about that. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
Fuck Deca! I don't want to take anything that's going to knock out my sex drive! So if you have any you shouldn't take it! Send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Ok, I freely admit that I was wrong in stating that Deca was better than test. Andriol is not inj. test. I apologize. Maybe I'll try test at a later date, and experience the difference. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 60 |
I'd hate to post a topic like this but from what im reading i have to post this reply i was pretty much set on doing a 7 maybe 8 week 3000mg of deca for my second cycle along with some d-bol at the end i was wondering maybe i should just forget the deca and go with a d-bol test cycle????? [This message has been edited by mb2001 (edited February 16, 2001).] |
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posted February 15, 2001 02:12 AM