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 why cant i stay lean
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I'm 18 years old and getting ready for my 5th cycle... I am having some serious trouble staying at low bf %... Through my first 3 cycles i stayed at 6% bodyfat with excess of 8000 cals a day. Even when i was off i would consume 5000-6000 cals and stay lean. After my last cycle i was at 10% bf and post cycle i did 3 cycles of DNP, and got back down to 6% just for 3 weeks with a 2500 cal, low fat, balanced carb/protein diet. then i was back up to around 12% even eating really clean... I dont understand why now i can't stay at 6%... Once i lose it, it comes back... And it is concentrated in the stomach and lower back. Any suggestions?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 136 |
You have been a victim of estrogen. Your hips and the adipose tissue around that area is still growing until you are 25 years old. It is also VERY sensitive to estrogen. So you have just permanently gained fat that will be nearly impossible to get rid of. That is the price you pay for using test. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 263 |
State, that just doesnt sound right, it the damn man has been around 6 percent most of his life, then i think he will get back to 6 percent. Maybe I'm a fool. But if test does this to everyone before they are 25 then damn near all of the people on here would be jacked with lovehandles you could pull and run away with. Im bumpin for ya Rugby. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 642 |
Where do you come from Statechamp??? If i can get down to under 6%bf... Obviously i can get rid of it. I just cant keep it off. Anyway, i have always used anastroloze or nolvadex... I was 240 at 6%. Now i am about 246 at 12% | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
Don't beleive me then. Just warning you that it is a risk that you take when you use gear at a young age. I would love to see you prove me wrong....seriously.
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 642 |
Prove yourself right. Plenty of my buddies have done high test cycle w/o anast. and are still very lean... I did my 1st three cycles and didnt have problems... I have always used anast... so estrogen levels are minimal | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
It doesn't occur overnight. It slowly creeps up on you and one day you post on the board and ask why you just can't get back to your same 6% without drugs...sound familiar. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 263 |
Ok champ, I dont suppose you've ever seen any of the pics of like Hardcore or Animal, or, damn i cant think of the other guys around here. But they are fucking lean as hell and have done some pretty heavy cycles. Prove your wrong??? You havent even proved that your right yet!!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
You guys need to relax, stop freaking out over the possibility of doing permanent damage to your body...because steroids will affect you no matter how much you ignore the truth. You don't have to believe me...do whatever you want with your body... ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Moderator 
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J** What is with all these posts under another name? Aside from that "statechamp" is correct: estrogen is to blame, to a certain extent. A problem with anti-estrogens is that they are not REALLY ANTI-ESTROGENS. Thats right. They are mixed estrogen agonist/antagonists. What does this mean? Why does estrogen cause fatty deposits in the lower body and "love handles" because it increases the number of and antagonizes the A2 receptor. Thats right it is giving you the fat storage pattern of a women by increasing A2 number and, according to data, increasing the sensetivity of those receptors. Your possible solutions: be careful with aromatics like test Use arimidex, with little or no reliance on anti E Use YOHIMBINE HCL or another A2 agonist. This will cause existing A2 receptors to release the fatty acids stored within. Use pgf to kill the fat cells- though sides are pretty annoying- and not an option for women.
I will be posting an extensive article on yohimbine hcl, as I consider it to be one of the most overlooked fat burners- especially in cases like this and for women. peace ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
Hmmmmm...what you think now??? ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1811 |
Your body produces fat cells just untill you get around 21 years. So if at 18 you get fatty, it will be more difficult to get rid of that later, you will get MORE fat cells. For a guy of 25 with the same problem, it will be easier to go back to 6 %, since he isn't gaining any fat cells anymore. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 263 |
Notice he says "To an extent", gotta point that out to save some of my pride here. Aight state champ you win. I actually did agree with some of what you said. But you just made it look like all people were this way. A point for you. None for me. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1637 |
estrogen modulated fat storage- who needs to be wary? In general I would say that if you suffer from gyno or have a gynoid fat storage pattern you should be wary. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 442 |
Good info Macro. I think I suffer from this very problem. I am pretty lean in all areas except the lumbar & abdominopelvic regions. I can run til' my friggin' legs fall off, but I can never seem to lose burn that fat area. I take arimidex throughout most of the year, because it's the only thing that helps to keep the fat in those areas to a minimum. I guess I need to try & get my hands on some yohimbine-?-sp Anyways, thanks for the info Macro ------------------ |
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posted February 14, 2001 11:58 PM