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 Don't need as much protein as you think
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Novice 
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you don't need as much as you think, the RDA of protein is .8 gms/kg not pound kilogram. The human body can only digest roughly 50 gms. of protein every three hours, but protein synthesis 65% of that. Therefore when you cycle they increase protein synthesis and this is why you can make so much more muscle, due to this and increased test. levels. If you increase your protein this high, you should increase your water intake to about .7 oz. per pound of bodyweight, cause the proteins have a nitrogen compound on them and it has to transaminate or deaminate the proteins before they can be used " just a fancy way of saying getting rid of the ammonia" the ammonia is secreted through your sweat (yellow armpit stains) and urine, dark piss!!!! if you don't up your water intake you are kicking the shit out of your kidneys.....so just be educated about it....so you don't screw up the one thing you want to build.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 69 |
You know, this urban ledgend of the bodies ability to digest 50 grams of protien per sitting ,just won't die! I tell you what Linebacker ....as you are working on your masters in nutrition.I challenge you to find me 1 study that shows that 50 grams of protien is the limit. POST it PLEASE | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
Linebacker, not sure where you get your info from but a couple of points. 1.) the RDA stands for Recommended Daily Allowance; the RDA is created to be minimum necessary for normal functioning. Now as well all know bodybuilders have much more muscle than the average bear and from their workouts need much more protein than the average person for repair. In addition as I said previously the RDA is a minimum value; therefore why not error on the side of maximum. Honestly if any bodybuilder were to take only the RDA levels of everything they would die. 2.) Your point about the kidneys is a myth. Please site 1 valid study that shows that people with normal kidneys(in other words non previous diseased)had any detrimental kidney problems from excess protein; sorry but they do not exist. 3.) That thing about how much the body can digest at one time is a bunch of shit as well; it varies per person, the state that the body is in, the type of protein, and other ergogenic substances in the blood. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 328 |
Well he is correct in that there is a max mount of protein that can be absorbed at one time just as there is a maximum amount of juice that one's receptors can accept. I'm sure it does vary among individuals so theres no way to really set a number in stone. I'm sure there are a lot of bodybuilders consuming megadoses of protein that are wasting it. I doubt there is ever a need to eat 500 grams of protein a day unless you are one very large person on a heavy cycle. Remember that excess protein can end up being stored as fat. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
Exactly, excess protein can be stored as fat but Linebacker just because it is excess does not mean that the kidneys can not handle processing the extra. While a very delicate organ they are also very efficient and can handle much excess protein without any signs of damage; just because ammonia or byproducts are released in your urine does not mean that the kidneys were overstressed to process it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 335 |
the reason they only recommend such a small amount is that is for the average person, not a bodybuilder that needs tons of protein ------------------ | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1979 |
I kind of believe it to a point. I have heard that excess protein causes "Gout". I also read somewhere that the body can only absorb like 16 oz of water per hour, so why not protein? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 395 |
The RDA's were never intended for athletes on intensive training programs. Our needs are different. The fact is there really hasn't been any studies done to find out how much protein, vitamins, minerals we really can use for optimal performance. The reason is - Who the hell is going to fund it? The FDA doesn't care, as long as the general population knows what they need that's all they focus on. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 54 |
RDAs are bullshit. Those levels are generally the quantity of each nutrient required to prevent you from getting a deficiency disease. For example, the RDA of vitamin C WILL prevent scurvy, but you won't find many health professsionals who will say that is an adequate daily dose, even for those who do not work out. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 469 |
i say 40-50gm a meal. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 184 |
The bottom line is that more protien is better than too little. Its also heavily correlated to diet. If you are consuming large quantities of chicken,fish etc.. your need for powders is not as high. The real question is timing. Immediately after a workout as well as before bed are the best for supplement consumption. Your heart rate is down while sleeping and as the body goes into a rested state protien utilization is used to repair damaged tissue rather than keeping up with your bodies demands while awake. |
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posted February 14, 2001 09:32 PM