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Linebacker

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posted February 14, 2001 08:57 PM

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I am doing my masters theses on this question, I have a bachelors degree in Exercise Science and a minor in Nutrition, and my masters I am studying exercise physiology and Biomechanics...if anyone has any input feel free to give it....thanks


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Deepsquat

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posted February 14, 2001 09:22 PM

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The potential for back injury is greatly magnified wihile doing box squats. As you fatigue and you have less control over the weight you may bounce out of the bottom ...as the box won't give your back must .....the potential for something as severe as a broken back is there....don't do them.


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squatter

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posted February 14, 2001 10:28 PM

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I would never box squat. I don't advise any athletes to box squat either. however, I cannot deny the success that many box squatters have had. the guys at lious' gym for example. I know quite a few powerlifters who box squat. come to think of it, I think that powerlifters are the only athletes who, in my opinion, benefit from them. all other athletes, BB, FB, wrestling, throwers, runners, etc all need to perform deep squats. the full range of motion developes more power, flexability, and functional strength, in my professional opinion.

best of luck with the paper, and please do post it when you're done!!!

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posted February 14, 2001 11:14 PM

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ok, first of all, i do not think there is any substitute for the paralell squat, but... i do think that the box squat has its advantages, but only for people who are tryin to push around the most weight they can... the box squat shocks your body into handling more weight than you are used too... but i think the risk outweighs the benefit, to much pressure on your back


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted February 14, 2001 11:33 PM

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I switched from high-bar oly full squats to box squats last year (was following the westside program), and lost alot of flexibility in the hamstrings. After doing them for 2 months I was sprinting (which I'd done for years injury free) and badly tore a hamstring. Suffice to say, I am not a big fan of them anymore.


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mb2001

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posted February 15, 2001 06:54 AM

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sorry but last i checked box squats are for pussies. I've seen so many people like they could move so much weight by using boxs that were too high for them or getting that rest from it bouncing etc there is nothing good that can come from box squat at least not that i've ever heard of unless you're a kid and you're working on form or something


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plifter

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posted February 15, 2001 07:31 AM

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Well I don't know what the hell you people are talking about. My weight drops dramatically when I box squat. I think you must be talking about the people that squat down on a chair that puts them at about 1/2 way to parallel. Powerlifters that do box squats tend to use a low box that puts them at the same depth or lower than they would go on a regular squat. You also need to pause at the bottom. This develops exlosiveness from the bottom position.


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mb2001

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posted February 15, 2001 11:03 AM

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even still i believe there are better ways to work on explosivness hip sled, straight leg dead lift, but I really dont know much about powerlifters traing for squat i suppose if a box was just a foot high to take the pressure off of your knees that could help.

i look at it like this though when you bench press would you have a plateform right above your chest and let the bar rest there for a second and then toss it up? i just hate seeing guys that never hit the rack like they should come up and put one of those things under there ass acting like they have knee problems and repping out 495 10 times and then when competition time comes they totall out at 500 but i guess thats my own personal grudge lol


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WarLobo

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posted February 15, 2001 11:04 AM

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If I want to insure I'm hitting parallel, or any depth, instead of using a box (which is far to dangerous) I will use a budgie cord. I attach each end to the squat rack and adjust the height. I then I squat until my butt touches the cord. You must still maintain form and control, but this will let you focus on the lift and not have to watch the mirror to see if you hit parallel.

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Adonis

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posted February 15, 2001 11:32 AM

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I use to do box squats when I first started to get into lifting. It really helped me phsycologically, because I didnt always have a spotter, of course the weight was never really very much. However, I would never do them again, and I really dont believe in knee wraps or back belts, it hinders the strength gains needed in those areas.


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2EZ2BRICH

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posted February 15, 2001 11:35 AM

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ATF squats bro ! ass to the floor..hehehe this allows one to build, tendons, ligaments etc, and not just the muscle. a good book to read, is: dinosaur training. it's a powerlifting thing...hehehe


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it's all about building functional strength. damn looking pretty..hehehe


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CN1

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posted February 15, 2001 11:40 AM

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hey bro forget both styles, the only way to achieve real size and strength is ass to the floor, yes ASS to THE FLOOR! Go back and look at Arnold squatting and others, Tom platz, ass to the floor, thats how the pros train and thats how you and everyone else should train.


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mb2001

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posted February 15, 2001 11:59 AM

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i totally agree with the last 4 posts bungie is great for parallel, ATF is the way to go though and i can see using the box not having a partner though you're better off with a smith machine if thats the case hell if its at all possible always use a smith machine before a box


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