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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 03:55 PM

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...I'm looking to do my first cycle, I don't know, I'm thinking probably some Dianabol and some Sostenon 250. First off, I'm about 5'8"/140lbs/0%bf/2 years lifting. I don't gain shit 'cause I run too damn much, and now I'm looking to pack on some meat. I was thinking about this cycle:

WEEK 1-2: 10mg/day, Sust 250mg/wk
WEEK 3-4: 15mg/day, Sust 250mg/wk
WEEK 5-6: 20mg/day, Sust 250mg/wk
WEEK 7-8: 15mg/day, Sust 250mg/wk
WEEK 9-10: 10mg/day, Sust 250mg/wk

What do u guys think???


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Mikey

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posted February 14, 2001 04:12 PM

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Well, first off 0% Body fat you'd be dead.
2nd, 140lbs at 5'8"?!! EAT DUDE EAT.
Sounds more like a caloric intake problem, than trying to cure with AS regime. If you are trying to gain weight and are running, you need to adjust your diet accordingly.


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Statechamp

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posted February 14, 2001 04:17 PM

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Looks like a good cycle. It [long d-bol cycles with low dosages] has been talked about a long time on the Varix board and a few of the guys are getting great results.

You need to slow down your cardio about 3 times per week at a max of 20 minutes per session. You will also need to get more protein and more carbs during the cycle or you will be wasting your time.

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 04:18 PM

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ha-ha...i'm for reals

Should I go with that cycle?


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Corleone

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posted February 14, 2001 04:21 PM

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0% bodyfat would mean you'd have no brain.

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 04:21 PM

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Should I administer the Sust? If so, should I go 250mg/wk and for how long? Thanx,

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Statechamp

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posted February 14, 2001 04:25 PM

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Using the Sust for 8-10 weeks at 250 is fine.


BTW, When the guy says 0% he means little bodyfat...lets get past it.

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Beezers

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posted February 14, 2001 04:26 PM

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I think you would be best advised to rethink your situation. First off, why do you run so much. For sport purposes then it's obvious, but if you willingly over train through running while simotaneously trying to gain mass you are doing yourself far more harm than good. At 140 food is the best anabolic for you. Ease off the cardio so your body can turn food energy into muslce mass instead of being forced to use it to fuel marrathons. Sust/dbol is a great first cycle...but you must eat and train properly...lot more food and a lot less cardio, compared to where you're at now. You are on the right track with your cycle but I think your doses are too low. First, don't pyramid the dbol. If anything taper down at the end, start highest. I would say a minimum of 25mg/day. Going any lower will deminish results significantly compared to what they could be at a safe and sane dose of 25-40mg. At your current size you may be able to get away with sust at 250.wk, but I would go with 500. No change in side effects but much better results from the drug. First and fore most...eat. And please sharre how you acheived 0% body fat. Many of us spend all our effort trying for 4-6%...What's the trick to 0%?


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Statechamp

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posted February 14, 2001 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Beezers:
First, don't pyramid the dbol. If anything taper down at the end, start highest. I would say a minimum of 25mg/day. Going any lower will deminish results significantly compared to what they could be at a safe and sane dose of 25-40mg.

This is not well though out advice. Since he will be using for 10 weeks, he should start slow and pyramid through it for best affect. The guys on Varix (which is the board with the most experience on the net) have dome it this way and gained well. If he goes higher, he will hurt himself (especially at that weight).

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bsjohnson

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posted February 14, 2001 04:30 PM

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NavySEAL, Quick question, Are you a Navy SEAL or no??? Thanks


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Solid Steel

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posted February 14, 2001 04:35 PM

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Ok Let me get this straight. You are 5'8 low bodyfat because you have been running and weight 140lbs. I am correct. Now you want to jump on into steroid use? Think up there, why not try natural for 6-12 months and see where that gets you. You wont be running anymore so you can consume more calories. Steroids are not for you right now.

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 04:36 PM

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NO, but I WILL be... I ship out August 3 of this year for Boot Camp. From there, it's A-School(Operations/Intelligence Specialist A-School), then from there my friend is "SEAL Training"----->BUD/S Basic Underwater Demolition/ SEAL Training.


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Statechamp

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posted February 14, 2001 04:39 PM

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Guys,

If he has low bodyfat, light bones and a small-medium frame then he could look bigger than you at 140 pounds.

Don't burn someone unless you have seen them.

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NavySEAL115

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Yeah, I know...I haven't been running for two weeks now. Two weeks that I have be lifting. My dad is a little guy, short and skinny. My mother's short, but wide. I guess there what you'd call the perfect "10"!
n-e-wayz, vets say that you shouldn't hit AS
anytime before you think you've reached your Natural Genetic Limit, and believe me when I tell you I hit that along time ago. I won't grow anymore, and will probably struggle to put on any more mass.


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 14, 2001 04:46 PM

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i agree with statechamp, he can achieve good gains with low d-bol dosages. the cycle does look good for a beginner,,,just, one word of advice, set goals, either you want to grow, or cut up,,and i think its to gain mass what you want, i'm i right? so quit the running, eat alot and go hit the weights. good luck

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 04:48 PM

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"Burn" me, of all these anonymous-type people here...c'mon guys, don't even go out on me like that. I keep it real ok, I believe in what I do and I DO do it to it. Ok. Now, "StateChamp" seems to be about the only loc' g down with giving some information that is necessary and greatly appreciated because I'm a BEGINNER, not VETS like you all. StateChamp is right, I have overtrained heavily(running about 70-75mi./wk.) before when I was in school, then stopped, and it's like I went from a medium build to a small build. I lost some weight and bone density. But I sure as hell look pops.


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Statechamp

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posted February 14, 2001 04:51 PM

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One last thing...

Even with the steroids, you will need to adjust your diet. That will be the only real way to assure great mas gains (since the gear will not do it by itself).

High protein and calories will be essential.

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ironbarbarian

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hey man, i'm not flaming you, i'm just telling what will work, DONT RUN and weight train. if you havent been running lately then why didnt you say that? i'm only trying to help but if you get offended then its your problem. you want to be in an anabolic state...

picture this: aerobics=burn muscle


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littlearnold1069

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posted February 14, 2001 04:54 PM

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i prefer d-bol at higher doses for more like 6 weeks, instead of 10

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Solid Steel

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posted February 14, 2001 04:59 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Statechamp:

Don't burn someone unless you have seen them.


I havent read throughly enough but from what I read I dont think anyone has burnt him. Perhaps & no flame intended you should have read his original post more carefully. The said reason he is small is because he was concentrating on running and ran too much. Surely you are not recommending him to jump in and use roids without trying naturally to see if he can gain now because he has cut the running out.

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NavySEAL115

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posted February 14, 2001 05:01 PM

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Hey "ironbarbarian," i wasn't offended, and that post you were talking back from wasn't intended for you. peace


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Statechamp

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quote:
Originally posted by Solid Steel:
I havent read throughly enough but from what I read I dont think anyone has burnt him. Perhaps & no flame intended you should have read his original post more carefully. The said reason he is small is because he was concentrating on running and ran too much. Surely you are not recommending him to jump in and use roids without trying naturally to see if he can gain now because he has cut the running out.

Thanks


Read my first response. I made sure to tell him to reduce the cardio...

Not everyone uses gear to weightlift...

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Corleone

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posted February 14, 2001 06:39 PM

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I'm just going to tell you that you'd be better off doing them after boot camp. you'll gain some major weight off sust and dbol on your first cycle, You're gonna suffer from some major chin splints, not good when you have to run miles and miles.

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JSNAKE33

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Hey bro--- I ahve done the BUD'S training.. YOU NEED MORE WEIGHT.. Ok look the bigger they are the easier to kill right? Well not when your 140.. Lot harder to take out a threat.... NEXT.. Your cycle is ok... Looks decent for a first timer... You shoudl get good gains.. BUT YOU WONT gain much runnign so damn much.. and believe me you need to run and SWIM A LOT.. Like you already know.. and from what I take it YOUR NOT IN THE NAVY AS IT IS YET.... Your planning on going to boot, then "voluntering" for SEAL acceptance.. Its rough , and you will loose this weight all over again..... Stick to a lot of food right now and run not as much... EAT EAT EAT.. You dotn need AS yet... But if you want to take the plunge do it.. I personaly ran the Dbol for 5 weeks at 50mg\Day.. test at 600mg\Week.... Good Luck and get in cold water as much as you can.. YOULL SEE HOW SAND DIEGO WATER FEELS ON YOUR SACK.. ahahhah


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avenger

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0%... I hate it when people waste our time talking about shit on these boards


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slim jim

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posted February 14, 2001 09:09 PM

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NAVY SEAL, YOUR CYCLE LOOKS OK BUT I WOULD GO 15 MGS OF D BOL FIRST TWO WEEKS, 20 MGS NEXT TWO WEEKS 25 MGS THE FOLLOWING TWO WEEKS THEN BACK DOWN EACH TWO WEEKS. FIRST TWO WEEKS 250 MGS OF SUS 250 THEN THE FOLLOWING FOUR WEEKS AT 500 MGS OF SUS 250 THEN BACK DOWN TO 250 MGS SUS FOR THE REMAINING WEEKS. EAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. WISH YOU LUCK. SLIMJIM


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Mad Max

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If you plan on doing buds training camp don't they have hell week. You sleep for 3 hours in the whole week and barely eat. I'm just saying make sure your gains are going to be permanent. I'm not knocking dbol but that might not be the best route to take. It is not knowing for keeping the gains. E-mail a mod with your situation and they would suggest something for you. I think it was 2thick who wresltes and would be able to help to suggest what is best to use in a very high active physical training lifestyle.
Just my 2cents. ---PEACE---Mad Max


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