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Stealth Assasin

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posted February 14, 2001 01:10 PM

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Why is it that you always get the beginners or the learners saying I am going to be using sust. When you ask why its because it doesnt cause gyno, doesnt cause water retention, keeps you lean. Hellllllooooo.

I really am concerned why all sites on the net recommend that first time users stick with sust over other forms of test. Is there something im missing or is there little reason to do this? Personally single esters kick ass over sust. With a single ester you know whats in your system and when. With susts half life you are always left wondering. It takes a while to kick in and takes a while to leave. To me an 8 wks cycle should be 8 wks. It should start from week 1 and end at week 8. Not start at week 3 or 4 and end at week 11- or 12. It isnt the price because many things are much cheaper. Please fill me in on this secret.

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Adonis

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posted February 14, 2001 01:17 PM

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Its mainly because most peoples A.S receptors react better to several esterbound anabolics, Hence Stacking. With sust you get four good test's, wich some people have better results than others, as far as the water and gyno, Sust250 is not exempt.

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Beezers

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posted February 14, 2001 01:25 PM

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You don't get four different tests in sust. There is only one testosterone. There are four esters in it. To get to the original inquiry...It has just become common recomendation thus common practice. It's almost instilled morals to the new folks just learning about AS. I prefer straight enanthate. Test is test. Every test product is really the same thing...just different esters. I myself like the longer releasing esters for ease of use. Enanthate is also cheaper than sust. Sust can be too drawn out as you mentioned as it is for long term hormone thereapy so that the patient needs only monthly injections...no practical use for our purposes. So if there is no practical use when you inject twice a week then why spend extra mony for testosterone when there are cheaper testosterone products out there?

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300kleen

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posted February 14, 2001 01:40 PM

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I think it's advised so much for newbies because it is self tapering, and it doesn't take much in terms of brains to cycle it.

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Solid Steel

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posted February 14, 2001 01:49 PM

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Thanks for the replies. 300 Kleen I agree it doesnt take much in terms of brains (hehe) but people without brains shouldnt be cycling in the first place. What else I would like to say is enanthate is also self tapering. It doesnt take as long as sust to taper off but If I inject 500mgs of enanthate today it will slowly taper over a long period of time before I have no active enanthate inside my body anymore. Anything over 5 days half life doesnt need to be tapered in my opinion.

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thesuperstar

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posted February 14, 2001 01:57 PM

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you can beat sust. for size and strength.

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littlearnold1069

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posted February 14, 2001 03:19 PM

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plus with the combination of esters it is like 1+1+1+1=5..can't beat that

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Solid Steel

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posted February 14, 2001 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by littlearnold1069:
plus with the combination of esters it is like 1+1+1+1=5..can't beat that

This is nothing but myth. Show me any scientific study that has shown that 4 esters are better than 1?

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