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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:10 AM

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Okay, we'll use trenbolone as an example here in this question , Since it shuts down nat. test production completely (i think)
---Say trenbolone takes 2 weeks to entirely suppress nat. test production (i am guessing. If u wanted to run a 4 week cycle of it .... Would the cycle be considered a waist mianly because your testosterone is already not working, so why not going 5 more weeks and get better gains? Is this approach correct. Or will testosterone production be easier to get back going if u were to choose the 4 week cycle? (didn't mean to confuse u guys, read the question over if u don't get it: it makes sense though )

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 14, 2001 01:19 AM

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Yes.If you're running it past the two week mark,you've already reached the point of full inhibition(both the hypothalamus and pituitary are fully suppressed)so you might as well just run a standard length cycle,as recovery will be the same,whether you run it four weeks,or six,etc.TWO WEEKS is the cut-off point in regards to keeping LH production intact...


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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:25 AM

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Thankyou huckleberryfinaplex that was the answer i was looking for......

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panerai

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posted February 14, 2001 01:25 AM

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Yep,anything between 2 and 8 weeks long will have same effect on HPTA,so you may run it all the way.Don't forget to consider other side effects of Trenbolone.


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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:28 AM

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Now Huck , is 2 weeks the cut off mark in LH for all androgenic and anabolic steroids or just certain ones? I say this because each steroid has a different effect on nat. test and each steroid releases at different times? (i know i am not being scientific but bear with me )

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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:30 AM

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Panerai....tren has caught my eye for it's possible dramatic effects on fat loss when combined with diet. It sounds great but i am still researching it for myself. You are right about the sides. Also , I read mr. h had said it is the best possible thing to do to keep your gains at the end of a cyle. That paired with the fact it down regulates cortisol receptors, (i think i saw e2 say that)makes this steroid fukin sound great !

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 14, 2001 01:33 AM

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No,there are exceptions to the rule.Oxandrolone and primobolan will not shut down LH production if used in moderate amounts.You want to stay away from any of the longer ester chains as well,as they stand a good chance of running you past that two week mark,even if only injected on day 1.


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panerai

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posted February 14, 2001 01:36 AM

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I would say that 2 weeks is a cut off mark for all the steroids,in quantity sufficient enough to make you grow.For some of them the quantity is even smaller,for some well pushing that limit.


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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:37 AM

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I understand huck , that compounds like sus wouldn't stand up to that 2 weeks. The last sust ester releases for 3-4 weeks,Panerai, so how would test production begin before that 4th week. Huck :What other compounds wouldn't stand up to the 2 weeks?

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panerai

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posted February 14, 2001 01:46 AM

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I'm sorry,I don't really understand your question.
But,as we speak of Sustanon,again,it depends on dosage.If you inject on day one 250mg of Sustanon,by day 14th you will have 125mg(supposedly)of Test in your bloodstream.It's right on the border between your body been able to be stimulated by Clomid and not to.Unfortunatly,you need a little more to be able to grow.
So,all the short esters should work,and even Enanthate(MeanOne's cycles are perfect example)


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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 14, 2001 01:50 AM

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Thanks fellas. I got my info now.

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