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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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OK guys here it is. This is what i have concluded about various steroids and their toxicity to the body. Please post if you feel my assumptions about any of these steroids is wrong. Non 17 aplha alkylated steroids are not greatly toxic. These are: All nandrolones The following 17aa steroids are not greatly liver toxic if injected: Stanozolol (winstrol depot) I am not sure whether sustanon is 17aa or not but in any case from what I have read it does not seem to be greatly liver toxic. I am not sure about oxandrolone. I keep reading that it isn't greatly toxic but it is a 17aa oral so I am still confused. Well here it is. Tell me if I have got any of these wrong or if you can add anything.     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 505 |
Sustanon is not 17aa and not overly harsh on the liver. Winstrol is hard on the liver whether you take tabs, inject, or drink the inject | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
why is winny hard on the liver if you inject it? | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5605 |
Taken orally or intra-muscularly,it still passes through several times and is metabolized by the liver.It makes no difference which route it travels through,it is metabolized the same way irregardless of administration... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 598 |
I don't know of anyone who can give a conclusive answer as to what specific drug at what specific range will cause "x" liver disorder. All we know is the drugs that are more prone to hepatotoxicity, and these are all 17-AA. A side note: methandriol is 17-AA and also has the side effect of causing hypertension due to alteration in corticosteroid metabolism. BUT it also has fibrinolytic activity (dissolves blood clots). This action is inherent in stanazolol and ethylestranol. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 588 |
I don't think that any non 17-AA steroids are toxic to liver at all. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 698 |
By being "toxic" does this mean poisoned forever or does the liver recuperate on it's own after the cycle is over? ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5605 |
The liver possesses remarkable recuperative abilities.As long as the 17AA usage isn't carried on for extended amounts of time,then hepatic(liver)function isn't permanently compromised.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 224 |
cockdezl, I thought the oral methandriol was 17aa but the injectable wasn't. Italiansweetness, as far as I know, if you don't over abuse the liver it will regenerate itself. Its the only organ in the body which can do this. x-man, The World Anabolic review reckons injectable winny isn't hard on the liver. Can you clarify? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 224 |
This is SO frustrating! I keep getting conflicting information. I realise that the World Anabolic Review isn't perfect but it is one of the best sources of information available and therefore I think it is important to pay attention to what it says. Firstly WAR says clearly that maxibolin (ethylestranol) is NOT a 17aa steroid, which makes sense because it is very weak. However I have just read a post which claims that maxibolin is 17aa. Also WAR says injectable methandriol is only very slightly liver toxic but then I read other claims that is quite toxic. WAR says that liver toxicity of winny is negligable when it is injected and its only the orals that can cause liver probs if they are taken too long in high doses. Yet if they are both 17aa wouldn't they be equally as toxic? The same person who said that maxibolin is 17aa also says that proviron is too. WAR isn't clear on this. I am at a loss. Can anyone help me out here? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 598 |
"This is SO frustrating! I keep getting conflicting information. I realise that the World Anabolic Review isn't perfect but it is one of the best sources of information available and therefore I think it is important to pay attention to what it says. Firstly WAR says clearly that maxibolin (ethylestranol) is NOT a 17aa steroid, which makes sense because it is very weak. However I have just read a post which claims that maxibolin is 17aa." WAR is incorrect, ethylestranol is orally active, and to my memory is 17-AA. It's weakness is most likely not a function of modification, but low dosages. I doubt many have taken this and many other drugs in sufficient doses to really see the effects. Too many correlate low dosage with lack of efficacy. "WAR says that liver toxicity of winny is negligable when it is injected and its only the orals that can cause liver probs if they are taken too long in high doses. Yet if they are both 17aa wouldn't they be equally as toxic?" You are correct, WAR is not. The drug has the same effects no matter the route of administration. "The same person who said that maxibolin is 17aa also says that proviron is too. WAR isn't clear on this. I am not up on the structure of Proviron, so I cannot help. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 224 |
cockdezl, Are all 17aas equally liver toxic. I mean maxibolin is a weak steroid. I would like to think that therefore its 17aa liver toxicity is equally weak. Surely its not as toxic as taking something like dianabol? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
On the list you forgot Tren.. |
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posted February 14, 2001 12:47 AM