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ErikP

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posted February 13, 2001 07:54 PM

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Hey guys, I've been reading the boards for a while now and I think I'm ready to start. I'm 17 years old, 5'10" 170 Lbs, looking for something to increase strength and endurance, as well as cut up a bit. Also, I'd like something to support my (bad) habit of working out everything hard every day (Could a cycle of Test only do that?). I've looked around and found 3 cycles that seem to look good for a real newbie.

A)
Primobolan Depot (http://www.angelfire.com/linux/roids/MaleNovice.htm)
1 200mg/ week
2 200mg/ week
3 300mg/ week
4 300mg/ week
5 400mg/ week
6 400mg/ week
7 300mg/ week
8 300mg/ week
9 200mg/ week
10 200mg/ week
My Opinion: Looks nice to me, very simple, easy, probably cheap. I have to wonder about effectiveness, however.

B)
Deca-Durabolin (http://www.angelfire.com/linux/roids/MaleNovice.htm)
1 200mg/ week
2 250mg/ week
3 300mg/ week
4 350mg/ week
5 400mg/ week
6 400mg/ week
7 350mg/ week
8 300mg/ week
9 250mg/ week
10 200mg/ week
Clomid
11 100mg/ day
12 50mg/ day
My Opinion: Only a slightly higher dose of juice, but then its stronger, I assume. Still looks easy enough, although why the "uneven" doses? If it comes in a 100mg amp, why not keep all dosages in factors of 100?


C) Deca Durabolin, Sustanon, Proviron, Dianabol, HGC and Clomid

(http://www.crosswinds.net/~anabolics/steroid-cycles/cycles.html)
My Opinion: Ahh!! I have some well supplied friends (for a high-school) and some cash, but this looks impossible! I have no doubt that it must be quite effective.

Am I at least somewhat on the right track here? Anyone wanna suggest a different cycle for someone without *any* steroid experience?

Thanks,
Erik

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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 13, 2001 08:06 PM

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HEY BRO! SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY YOU ARE TOO YOUNG, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IT AND NOTHING WE SAY WILL STOP YOU THAN I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START. IT IS NOT VERY EASY TO PUT ON MUSCLE AND CUT UP AT THE SAME TIME. I WOULD CHOOSE ON OR THE OTHER, BULK OR CUT. IF YOU WANT TO BULK THEN I WOULD GO WITH MY CYCLE I AM ON RIGHT NOW, IT IS:

SUST-500MG/WEEK FOR WEEKS 1-8
D-BOL-25MG/DAY FOR WEEKS 1-4
EQ-400MG/WEEK FOR WEEKS 3-12
CLOMID WEEK 13-100ED, WEEK 14 50MG/ED WEEK 15 50/EOD. HAVE NOLVA ON HAND IN CASE YOU FEEL GYNO COMING ON.

IF YOU WANT TO CUT WHILE MAINTAINING MUSCLE MASS THEN I WOULD GO WITH WINNY, EQ, E/C/A STACK
EQ-400MG/WEEK FOR WEEKS 1-10
WINNY-50MG/ED FOR WEEKS 5-10
CLOMID- SAME AS ABOVE
ECA USE IT ON MONDAY-FRIDAY AND TAKE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY OFF. WHEN CUTING DIET AND CARDIO ARE KEY, SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD DIET. IF YOU NEED ANY OTHER HELP, POST THE QUESTION OR E-MAIL ME AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER IT FOR YOU. HOPE THIS HELPS

M18

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littlearnold1069

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posted February 13, 2001 08:11 PM

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i agree with MUSTANG_18

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ErikP

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posted February 13, 2001 09:10 PM

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Thanks for the info, but you must be a "elite" bodybuilder, haha because I don't think I could handle your cycle. I'd rather stay under around 400mg per week, and I can't really see poking myself more than twice a week. Is there anything else a little less demanding (physically as well as on my wallet) I can do? I'm thinking I'll just ask around and see what I can get locally first, and maybe ask around and see what kind of cycle/stack I can make out if it.

Thanks again,
Erik


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GAMUSCLES

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posted February 13, 2001 09:58 PM

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Erik, juicing at any level is a personal decision and one that should only be done after much research and consideration. My question to you is "do you really think you have worked with yourself enough to even know truly how you respond to diet, training, sleep, stress etc"? I'm not flaming you buddy but at 17 I sincerely doubt it. The cycles you are proposing are not considered "heavy" by my standards. Heavy cycles are ones where your total intake is around 2000mg or more a week. What i'm trying to tell you is that the cycles you have proposed will most likely lead to bigger and heavier cycles. Are you prepared for that? Do you really know what your goal is here? If you do then I think it is great but if you don't then take the time to find out. I compete and have friends that are and are not clean. I don't condemn either but I take issue with those that don't educate themselves. Again, i'm not flaming you but encouraging you to be sure you know what you are doing before you complicate things.


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lawnsaver

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posted February 13, 2001 10:13 PM

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I think you should wait. Reach your potential. If you change to a higher protein diet and stick to it and add some glutamine and creatine for 6 month to a year, you will make new gains. Do everything you can naturally. When you are ready, you wont need 3 or 4 types of gear. Scubasteve here on the board just finished his first cycle and gained over 20lbs. He ate right and trained hard. But most important, he knew he had virgin receptors. He only took 250mgs of test and 200mg of eq.

I personally will never go over 500mg of any substance. I have been on 500mg of test with 300mg of eq while a friend did almost double the doses. He gained 3 more lbs than me, but had much more sides.

Take everything you read here with a grain of salt and make your own conclusions,

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lizzy

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posted February 13, 2001 10:17 PM

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Since you are still pretty young many people are going to say stay away from steroids because your hormones haven't settled down yet. Since I know that the temptation to take steroids is too strong to resist, then I would strongly encourage you to use only the primobolan. This shouldn't really muck up your hormones, and because you are fresh you will get good results. If you take reasonable off periods between primobolan cycles say 12 weeks on, 12 weeks off) and don't desensitize your receptors by using stronger stuff, you should be able to keep making gains on primobolan for quite a few cycles. Just up the doses say 20% for each subsequent cycle. You can probably run the primo for 12 rather than 10 weeks too.

Best of luck.


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