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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 12:12 PM

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Heres one for you let me know if you have had this happen. I finished my cycle 1 week after my last shot I started my clomid took it 100 ed for 1 week and 50ed for a week the following week. About 2 weeks after that I started to notice gyno coming on at first I wasn't sure so I waited about a week and then I started taking nolva. Now I have a nice lump behind each nipple and they are still getting sore every once and awhile. I have been off my cycle for 2 months now and want to start again but can't because of the gyno.I took nolva 40mg a day for 3 days and dropped it down to 20 a day till about thur. that will make it a week then I'll go 1 eod let me know if of any suggestions. Oh yeh my cycle was sus and dbol a very light cycle. I wondered if the clomid screwed me up?


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 01:11 PM

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And here I thought you guys knew every thing. Obviously not. Doesn't anyone have any experience with this or has no one here ever done any gear!


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Stew Meat

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posted February 13, 2001 01:21 PM

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Clomid is not an antiestrogen as you are thinking that it is. It is actually a weak estrogen that binds to the estrogen receptor sites due to the sites affinity for clomid. But the stronger estrogens are still being produced. After extended an extended time (a couple of weeks) there is a build up of estrogen that hasn't bound to the receptor sites. When you quit taking the clomid, bam! the stronger estrogens hit you at one time. This usually doesn't affect those who are not gyno prone.
You should use an antiaromatase such as Armidex whenever you take the clomid. It will keep your test as test and quell the buildup of estrogen.


-Stew


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 01:33 PM

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I don't have a supplier for armidex. If I took the clomid for longer or with nolva would that work thanks for your help.


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Slopain

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posted February 13, 2001 01:36 PM

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Nolva will help the clomid is really not going to do much if you are gyno prone (which is what this sounds like). If those lumps are hard under your nips chances are they arent going away no matter what. Nolva is preventative not a cure.

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STATIC PUMP

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posted February 13, 2001 01:40 PM

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WHTA IF C1 TAKES AN ECA STACK OR CLENBUTROL WONT THAT HELP BURN IT OFF A LITTLE? BUT HE WILL PROBABLY LOOSE SOME OF THAT MUSCLE HE WORKED SO HARD FOR RIGHT?


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 02:07 PM

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Stew Meat and the rest of you guys I appreciate your help lets keep it going. I wonder am I really gyno prone even though I do have it now. Or did I just totaly f$$ck up on the clomid dose?


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 02:37 PM

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I need some more help here or are the mods going to leave me out to hang here. Come on guys I've done all the research and read every thing lend your expertise and opinions!


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machman

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posted February 13, 2001 02:42 PM

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stop whining....Somebody will answer the question, just keep it bumped!!!


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Magic11

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posted February 13, 2001 02:59 PM

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ok.. here is the deal.

the lumps you have now.. most likely will not go away. you will require surgery to remove them.

for your next cycle i would suggest nolva or armidex (however you spell it)

i know about this subject because i developed a slight case of gyno even with clomid. i now have nolva on hand for any future problems. i had the surgery it costs around $3000.00 but my insurance paid it all.


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 03:23 PM

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Machman have you ever done gear I've been watching this board for about 8 month and its amazing the number of guys who make coments like you have and have never even done a cycle!


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C1

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posted February 13, 2001 03:40 PM

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Bump.


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 13, 2001 04:12 PM

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what dosages did you use? how much clomid did you take post cycle? did you take any natural anti-estrogens during the cycle?


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Stew Meat

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posted February 13, 2001 04:17 PM

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lol @ C1!!!

Your dossage of clomid was fine. You are just very prone to gyno. Every cycle you do should include Armidex as a preventative. Like Slopain said, if it's hardened, you'll probably have to have it removed. If it is just getting sore, it should go away as long as your estrogen levels aren't high.

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-Stew


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 13, 2001 04:36 PM

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This is scary.


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