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Krusher

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posted February 12, 2001 10:25 PM

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Hey bros, I'm curently on my 8th day of my cycle and up 10lbs so far, strength is already up, got mild headaches for the first 2 days but they subsided, it was a good indication of the legitmacy of this product.
I took 1 abomb daily last week along with a gram of test and 50mgs/day of winny (to combat water retention)..I'm upping my dose to 2/day this week and next, then down to one
for the 4th week..this week and next should be the bomb, I can't wait til my next workout..this is such a relief for me, as I've been screwed in previous attempts to get legit a-50's..finally the real deal, I'm lovin em. I don't remember ever gaining 10lbs after my first week, the test hasn't even begun to work it's magic.


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LanceMontana

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posted February 12, 2001 10:28 PM

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Sounds nice. LM


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mb2001

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posted February 13, 2001 12:46 AM

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i've searched the boards and read a lot but i still want to hear more about the paper im pretty much sold on it for the future anyhow but still


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 13, 2001 12:52 AM

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nice

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mike peters

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posted February 13, 2001 02:15 AM

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Good for you, keep it up. I'm glad to hear that those products are working.


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panerai

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posted February 13, 2001 03:20 AM

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Drop Winny,it kills at least half of Anadrol benefits.If you want to avoid bloating go against estrogen caused one,take Arimidex or Nolva.
Or,if you stubborn,next time get paperBol,it will give the same effect as your Drol/Winny stack,but you will feel better,and will cost you much less.

[This message has been edited by panerai (edited February 13, 2001).]


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therealj

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posted February 13, 2001 05:20 AM

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how will it kill the effects?...do you consider water retention/high blood pressure and possible progesterone induced gyno a positive effect?


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2legit2quit

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posted February 13, 2001 05:42 AM

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Sounds great, but watch your blood pressure on the a-bombs and winny bro.


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avenger

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posted February 13, 2001 08:11 AM

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abombs are the way to go... I was on a DBOL cycle alone and then got my hands on 50 Abombs... good ones and the difference was huge!


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panerai

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posted February 13, 2001 12:09 PM

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A lot of gains from Anadrol are due to it's ability to bind to progesteron receptor,it's a mix of androgenic-progesteronic properties.Most of the Anadrol gains are water and intramuscular fat,exactly the same as in cattle,were they use androgens,progesteron and estrogen.
So,blocking binding by Winstrol,you not only get rid of sides but of benefits,as well.Basically,you and up with bad version of Dbol.


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therealj

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posted February 13, 2001 02:35 PM

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I see your points but think it would be foolish to use anadrol without winny...I'm not a huge fan of orals to begin with


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panerai

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posted February 13, 2001 04:20 PM

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Anadrol & Winny or Anadrol without Winny?
Funny thing is that right now they have similar discussion on AnabolicExtreme board.And sinse Animal didn't claim copy rights for his post there yet,I will repost it here.I don't agree or disagree with him,I think more studies or experiments have to be done before we can come to conclusion,but read for yourself:
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"I know somebody that tried rather extensive
tests with anadrol and this theory. First Ana was taken at 50mg/day and cytadren was used. AFter a break and water went away, the same was repeated with anastrozole. Neither did anything for the sides from the anadrol.

A month or two later the same dose of anadrol was used and for 1 week 50mg/day of W was added. Nothing. Next week 100mg of W/day with similiar lack of benefits.

Problems with the theory all around. I believe the pros of the W being a progesterone blocker were found to happen in the liver cells and I don't know that such an experiment holds true for muscle.

Another is that W has poor AR binding properties to start with so it's likely the anadrol would beat it out at the AR, anyhow.

Another is that some of the positive benefits of the Anadrol would come from progesterone binding/transcription. Now, if winny binds to the same AR and transcribes to the same site you are gonna not get transcription somehow?

All in all, the idea that somehow winny is stopping transcription for side affects or is able to block transcription at only the areas where side affects would occur is a bit ridiculous.

Anarchy in the USA!"


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