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Cool Novice 
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I know i dont have many post however I check this sight out on a daily basis just to read up sometimes for a laugh but mostly for some good info. Well the question is the drinking of winny. I personaly compete and have a very very close pro bodybuilder friend who says that it is bullshit you can not drink it and he is a top pro .... however it seems that slopain and a few others are very knowledgable about the subject and what they say make sence to me and what I know about juice. I would just like for someone who has done it PERSONALLY and knows for a FACT that it worked and it wasent something else working that was being stacked with it.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 121 |
You can drink it. Winny comes in pill form also. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
What help that was!! lol I am not one of these kids on here who dont know anything and I am perfectly aware of the pill form of winny but injectable is much more avail and less expensive and anyways I am just asking for personal experience. Thanks anyway | ||
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Freak 
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Two points. First don't think that because a guy is a pro he will give you a correct answer about AS. Most of them don't know shit about what they are using. Second the ONLY reason regulars hate this question is because it is asked every day of every week. If you put the words "drinking and winny" in the search you'll get back 336 posts asking this question and several thousand posts answering it. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Pros dont know shit ..... what fucking idiots on here .. I guess that is why they are pros and Im sure you are not. First of all he is in every damn magazine there is he is a personal friend and would tell me anything about roids I wanted to know. I realize the search and how it works all I asked for is for someone to say it works all by itself (no stack involved) because it does make sence what people write about it but 17 alka and all the bull shit dont mean a thing to me until I hear someone honstly say it worked for them and thanks for letting me know you can search a topic on here .... whatever | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
If your "Pro" bodybuilder friend is so great why do you second guess him and ask everyone here for advice? Who is this pro? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
i'll BUMP lift or die on that one ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1442 |
he's a top pro? who is he | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 74 |
Come on Mr.Florida, who is this pro?? The only bodybuilder I know that comes out of Florida that is a Pro is Dexter Jackson. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 173 |
I believe our "Natural" pro Darem Charles also lives in Florida. ------------------ [This message has been edited by JuanDeLaCruz (edited February 12, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Sure I will just throw his name right here on the comp. Sure !! I guess the question is not needed much anymore because no one can answer the damn thing anyways. However im not second guessing him I am just curious why he nor anyone else in the Daytona Beach Area has ever heard of anything so riduclous and the drinking of winny. I see it all the time wanted on here and wanted to put a female friend on it and wanted to avoid giving her a shot it someone could say it truly worked for THEM. I shoot mine by the way because its in a bottle and it says ADMINISTER BY INTRAMUSCULAR INJECTION which means put in in the muscle for you dummys out there. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 421 |
Dude, how do I say this? You are gonna get people that say 3 things: 1. Yes, you can drink winny. 2. No, you can't drink winny. 3. Yes/no it is/is not better than injecting/swallowing. What conclusion will you even come up with after every one states their opinions. Many are in favor of drinking and many are in favor of injecting. BOTH work!!! Yes, you can swallow winny. And yes, I have experience with swallowing 17-alkylated "stuff". Yes, in my opinion, everyone should swallow and save the headache of daily injections (as well as other things). But, there are others that swear injecting is better. You will not get a definitive answer here on which is the better route because of the broad difference in opinions. And god knows we don't need another 80 hit thread with everyone getting pissed at each other. To answer your question in short: YES YOU CAN SWALLOW WINNY. BTW, You missed the point on what ULTER was trying to say. I can assure you it wasn't a flame. He is a knowledgeable guy. Don't jump to conclusions. [This message has been edited by MR. BMJ (edited February 12, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Look fellas I have no reason to lie about haveing a close personal friend as a top pro who he is isint important I would have just liked to hear from some personal experience on drinking winny alone | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1442 |
quote: apparently this pro in every magazine who tells you everyhting you want about roids doesn't know shit because your asking us if we are all idiots then leave dipshit [This message has been edited by timac (edited February 12, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 653 |
I have used both methods, without stacking the winny, and they both worked very well. You can feel the winny spike more when you drink it since it is absorbed faster (and probably less effeciently) as opposed to injecting which feels like it takes longer to kick in but lasts longer. I don't know your stats but I like using 50mg a day orally. On the only cycle I injected winny, I did it at 75mg eod so I can't really compare 50mg a day orally vs. 50mg a day injecting. However, I can tell you that the winny shots hurt like hell most of the time and clogged up the needle so I choose to drink my winny from now on. Plus the paper and powder winny is a lot cheaper than the injectable. You know that the injectable is a 17aa drug so it can be taken orally. Dan Duchaine even went as far as to say that 17aa steroids are more effective when taken orally due to increased GH production, stimulated by the first pass of a 17aa steroid through the liver. I am not saying he is correct but it is one more possible reason to drink injectable stanazolol. giantset ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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I wasent askink you timac because you obviously dont know however i was refering to people LIKE you as idiots who would say a pro dont know anything and the people on here who are very knowledgeable about juice are very few. And they were the ones I wanted some advice from cause once again it makes sence however NOBODY here in florida that i know does it or has ever heard of such a thing I first saw it posted on here about a year ago Anyways special thanks to MR DMJ or however it was spelled and the second person who answered my question...... cant remember the name but thanks | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 486 |
Giantset answered your question. But I gotta add that your attitude stinks. You asked a question, and got answers. Just cause they're not what you wanted to hear doesn't mean you gotta get an attitude. And not all pros know everything. That's obvious by your friend saying that you can't drink winny. | ||
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Cyborg   
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Your question: any personal experience? My answer: yes and it works The only time I shoot winny is when Im shooting something else ed or eod anyways. Chemical structure of the active ingredient is identical, so it really doesnt matter - if the pills work orally so will the injectables. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 97 |
Who are you to call these people fucking idiots? Take your ass out of here. | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1527 |
I compete NPC. I live in orlando. I used to drink winny and did great with it. I have injected in the past and did great with it. So whats the difference? One hurts one does not. It does not take a "pro" to say yes it work or no it does not. It takes knowing what makes up a compound and what does not. In this case a alk 17 ( like liquid d bol and winny tabs, and anadrol and others) can all be injected and or swallowed. Does your friend know that anadrol and d bol are both injectabile and oral? This question has a very obvisious answer. i don't knock anybody but the facts are here for you to deceide on your own. Try it and see for yourself and than go back and teach your friend because pros don't know everything and if they did they would not turn to ( Ducchaine (rip) zulac (yes even him) charles glass, and everyone else who help "pros" get ready for shows. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 130 |
Slopain and Flexed1 have it right as usual. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 123 |
Good answer Giantset. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Pro�s knows how their bodies respod better. But that doesn�t means they know how it is going to work in someone else system. Do you know the difference between drink, inject, and sublingual? Different via means a difference in how fast (and how hard) does it kick... I like to inject 50 - 100mg and a few minutes after put 25 mg under my tongue... Try it. | ||
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Freak
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pro or not, all i can say is that he and you are going on hearsay and not scientific fact. the reason it is 17aa....etc etc...i wont bore you with the details, since you apparently know already, but are opting to hear personal stories instead. as for whether he knows or doesnt. i have a sneaking suspicion most pros out there are "coached" as to what to take and when to take it. why would said coach go for any other route than injection, its not his ass to worry about. if anyone complains, said coach will say "hey, winning has its price." but in reality...it can be consumed orally. hence the multiple forms winny comes in. just a thought, ref-b (another 17aa), drink or shoot? "its made for shooting, it says on the bottle." ...yeah go ahead, ill settle for a bit less absorption and healthy injection sites. have a nice day ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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pros are pros because they have great genetics. They are pros because they respond well to, and take a lot of, gear. Most of these guys are not rocket scientists, however that being said it is the power of mythology that is at work here. It has been a long standing MYTH within the bodybuilding community that injectable and oral stanozolol were different. But that is all that it is, A MYTH. I must agree that your attitude is less than desirable. I would not have even responded. But I abhor the "I know a pro and he says you cant drink winny" line, because unfortunately people may listen and perpetuate this sad myth. For that Reason alone do you get a reply. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
MrFlorida you are very naieve. You are arguing with Ulter because he knows you can drink it and your 'pro' friend says you cannot. The biggest are not always the smartest. I am sure the reason pros inject it over drinking it is for any edge it may give them in inhanced site injection increases. Winny is well known for doing this and at the amounts they are using I would understand why the inject over drinking. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
quote: I see that macrorophage69alpha took the words right out of my mouth. Nicely put. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
99% of the time, the biggest are not the smartest. They are just like any other pro athlete. They have the best coaches and doctors/nutritionists working for them. They were discovered to be gifted early in their careers and since that point, their knowledge ceased to expand because there was no reason for them to think anymore since their hands are held at every point now. Ask a top pro an intelligent question and he either lies or talks out of his ass to make it sound like he knows. They are useless. If you want to learn about pro bodybuilding, you go to the sources of knowledge such as Charles Glass. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
I am so disappointed over the arguing going on here... Ask your question... But don't be an asshole to others that are just trying to help you! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 203 |
one of my friends was a top body builder in my country and he knew very little about steroids. He had good genetics and he knew enough to grow on steroids. But now, even he says that he would have used steroids totally differently if he knew what he knows now. One of the reasons he got so big was because he knew nothing about steroids. He reckons he'll be dead by age 50 because of the way he used to juice. If he knew what he knew now he'd probably never have gotten so big so quickly because he'd never use steroids that way. Ignorance was bliss it seems. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
aaahhh i love this place ! people ask uestions and then get pissed when they get the answers ! sounds just like my old lady ! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
quote: out of all the great post's on this, I think this is probally the most accurate, heh heh ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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For you few who missed it the first time I said "It makes sence to me that you can drink the winny" and of course pros dont know everything nor do I but dont fool yourself thinking that they dont know a lot about juicing cause without it (and growth) there genetics and hard work wouldent get any of them there without it. I put in my orig post that i came to this sight on a regular basis and i compete myself... I realize the search and that winny comes in pill form... I mean come on that was rediculous. Everything I have ever seen on the subject was proof by 17 alka and I just wanted to hear from someones personal experience who wasent stacking a bunch of other drugs with it. ANYWAYS thanks to the people who answered my question very appreciated. MRFLORIDA | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 46 |
what the **** ! Just use it as it was intended to use the Dart !! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I am soooo glad I didn't have to get involved in this one... I was sweating there for a moment... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 13 |
quote: Perhaps you should Gymrats | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
avenger-well done ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 310 |
I THINK THE BEST WAY DO DEAL WITH THIS WOULD BE NOT TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION- TO LATE I GUESS- OH WELL - TOMO | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Promet1 is pathetic and obviously uninformed. Hell, just by reading this single thread, he should know better. Oh, well... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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---You wanted personal experience:I have injected then drank injected then drank ect. in my 2nd cycle. I know for a fact that drinking the winny works because i "felt" it on the drinking days *a spike*. ----Winstrol as you know is short acting and if the winny didn't work orally then i wouldn't have felt it at all the day after i drank it...... Bye the way i did 50mgs. eod. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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People from Florida have no right to call us idiots. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 197 |
I gave done lots of crank but never, swallowed injectable winny, is there a certain way to do it mix it with you milk, put it under your tongue what, gonna do some and I am interested since I will be sotting two others. | ||
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Olympian
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Anyway, I too have drank winny and also shot it. I will drink from nw on. As Italain Sw. I too love the spike I feel. I got great results from drinking the winny. As for you pro friend, I know he is very prideful, but did give you the wrong info. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Cool Novice
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrFlorida: [B]I check this sight out on a daily basis If you checked this site on a daily basis, then you have seen this argument on a daily basis....there will be no changes in this argument in the coming weeks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 57 |
MrFlorida I havent drank winny so im afriad I cant offer any other advice than to go with what you feel comfortable with. If you dont want to try drinking it and none of your friends have tried drinking it , Then Just do what you know will work and shoot it. Or you can be the first among your friends to try drinking it. Good luck bro  | ||
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Cool Novice
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You know.....people from Florida......the whole election thing, and what not.... I didn't mean for you to take it all that seriously. [but since you are from Florida, I'm not suprised you needed me to spell it out for you (just kidding Lawnsaver, no hard feelings)]. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 487 |
Mr.Florida....why don't you meet up with Mr.Dictionary sometime?! I mean, goddamn, at least post something that we can read. Shit, my 3 year old niece can write better than that. Anyways....whatever....I can't believe this fucking subject is being debated again. Sorry, guys, but FUCK! And to even argue about it....what the fuck?! Do you want to argue about the "so-called" theory of gravity as well? Just venting..I guess....
[This message has been edited by Wfabrizio (edited February 13, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 188 |
Hmmmm, lets see I am not a "PRO", but I think I do have numerous titles already at the age of 19, and well you know where I got all the knowledge I have now from, not Muslce Mag pal... And if you were/are Mrflorida, shouldnt you know the answer to your question....?? NO MORE FUCKING CAN YOU DRINK WINNY POST, THE ARE JUST A PLAIN WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.... GO LOOK IN THE ARCHIVES FOR THE ANSWER THERE ARE ENOUGH POST ON IT TO KEEP YOU READING ALL NIGHT! ------------------ If You Can't Be Bigger, Be Better Looking! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 88 |
JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE CLOSE THIS FUCKING TOPIC. I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO SWALLOW! ------------------ [This message has been edited by Big Johnson (edited February 13, 2001).] |
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posted February 12, 2001 10:13 PM
