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Eramthgin

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posted February 12, 2001 09:35 PM

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Fail to wrap your thumbs around the bar in opposition to you fingers?

This is a dangerous practice...by the way.


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beefmaster

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posted February 12, 2001 09:37 PM

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That would be me. I hate the feel of grabing the bar so that the weight is in the pocket of soft skin between the thumb & index finger. I can actually lift more using the thick pad of meat that pops up when you put your thumb beside your index finger. Different strokes for different folks.

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ironbarbarian

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posted February 12, 2001 09:40 PM

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yes very dangerous, i alwyas wrap the thumbs to the bar.


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avenger

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posted February 12, 2001 09:43 PM

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why is it dangerous if you don't wrap your fingers around the bar?


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Lift Or Die

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posted February 12, 2001 09:44 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Eramthgin:
Fail to wrap your thumbs around the bar in opposition to you fingers?

This is a dangerous practice...by the way.


I never wrap them around the bar. Been doing it like this for 15 years and never had a problem.


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Burnboy

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posted February 12, 2001 09:50 PM

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quote:
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why is it dangerous if you don't wrap your fingers around the bar?

it could slip out and kill you

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mike001

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posted February 12, 2001 09:51 PM

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i have a friend who had 345lbs on and he didnt have his fingers wrapped around the bar. well guess what? he dropped it on his neck, lol everyone in the gym just watched him, didnt do shit about it.. fucked up huh? he grabbed the bar and pulled it of his neck and set it in place. now, name one person that can do that from their NECK!
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p.s. i always wrap my thumbs around the bar every since i seen that happen!


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beefmaster

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posted February 12, 2001 09:53 PM

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It could slip out? I don't think so. even the lightest bench (135?) is not gonna defy the laws of physics & gravity and leap off of your palms. Lets say it did....would you want you thumbs ripped out of their socket trying to stop it? I'll pass.

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Frackal

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posted February 12, 2001 09:54 PM

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Damn, I never thought of that but that's a very good point. Thumbs around bar for me from now on.


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 12, 2001 10:02 PM

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I always wrap my thumbs around the bar. I feel a lot stronger and safer that way. BTW, Arnold and Franco used to bench the other way with the sides of their thumbs squeezed against their index fingers.

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dcmh13

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posted February 12, 2001 10:08 PM

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I always rap my thumb around the bar. It just feels natural.


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BigPapaPump

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posted February 12, 2001 10:23 PM

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No wrap here. Your thumbs will not help control the bar if you loose it anyway.

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harpoon

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posted February 12, 2001 11:03 PM

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i'm a wrapper.....feels more comfortable..plus if you pick your nose, you can still play with it that way

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ironbarbarian

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posted February 12, 2001 11:07 PM

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its not about the control, is about the bar slipping, if you dont have a nice grip the shit can break your ribs if it falls.


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Code-Code

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posted February 12, 2001 11:08 PM

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No reason to wrap the thumb, do you think your thumbs can support the amount of weight you bench should it slip?


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posted February 12, 2001 11:12 PM

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I think a non-wrap is much more mechanicaly stronger.

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giantset

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posted February 12, 2001 11:25 PM

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The only intelligent argument I have seen for wrapping your thumb around the bar is that when you wrap your thumb around the bar, your wrist is in a more stable position and less prone to injury. When you do not wrap your thumb, your wrists tend to lay back more and put more stress on the wrist joint. I interchange these two grips according to what feels good on any given day, but generally I wrap my thumbs since I have broken my wrists in the past and they are stiff and painful.

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b fold the truth

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posted February 13, 2001 01:48 AM

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Had a friend that did this type of practice on bench. When he went to rack the weight he accidentally hit the top of the rack and it came out of his hand. It began to slip a little and he couldn't get a grip back on it...till it popped out of his hand and luckily it only hit his chest. Lots of bruises.

I can't do flat bench with this practice...I bench with a 2" bar. Very difficult to bench that way.

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plifter

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posted February 13, 2001 09:18 AM

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in powerlifting we call this a suicide grip, I've seen a lot of people drop the bar on their chest this way. Some people will lift more weight this way because it forces you to tuck your elbows in instead of having them flare out to the side.


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bigal

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posted February 13, 2001 10:30 AM

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I always use a false grip. especially when going heavy as wrapping my thumb hurts my wrists.

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ironbarbarian

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posted February 13, 2001 10:34 AM

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maybe you can lift more without wrapping, but just the thought of the bar falling and breaking my neck gives me creeps.


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strengthmonster

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posted February 13, 2001 10:36 AM

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I have never wrapped my thumb in 13 years.
Hold your hand in front of you and place the other as if it was the bar in both positions. With the thumb wrapped it lies further up the hand, causing more stress on the wrists. With out it wrapped it is in alignment with the wrist. I have never seen any body drop a bar on themselves, except when their chest has given in but their hands still are in contact.


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BLOODTIDE

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posted February 13, 2001 11:37 AM

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I interchange my grip from time to time.

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posted February 13, 2001 12:19 PM

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thumbs wrapped might give a sense of security, but its true, your thumbs alone cannot support the weight you are benching alone. i personally dont wrap my thumbs. i heard somewhere it helps for a stronger bench. shrug. maybe thats a myth too.


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conan69

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posted February 13, 2001 12:32 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by avenger:
why is it dangerous if you don't wrap your fingers around the bar?


Freshman year in college first set 225
didnt wrap my thumbs and dropped the bar from the locked position...cracked sternum

also it puts your wrists in a bad position

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1RM

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posted February 13, 2001 12:53 PM

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the thumb is the weakest part of the hand!! it ain't gonna stop 300+lbs from slippin. if the bar slips you've done something wrong, like moving you elbows to get more leverage from you're tri's. i've tried a closed grip and can't even get my set started, feels like shit. to each their own, if it fells good and enables you to lift more be like nike and just do it!!!!


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MP5

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posted February 13, 2001 01:01 PM

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You people act like the thumb is the only thing lifting the weight, rather than your hand working as a whole to hold it, and your arms and pecs lifting it. I wrap my thumbs and the thumb IS strong enough to keep it stable and prevent it from rolling out of your grip.

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littlearnold1069

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posted February 13, 2001 01:09 PM

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i alwayz wrap thumbs around..i prefer not to drop weight on my neck

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Saizen

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posted February 13, 2001 01:13 PM

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Well I personaly think it's all about preferance. I never did nor will I ever do it. I prefer to not to wrap, just compfort that's all. I never seen any one loose the weight like people have mentioned above. Nor Have I. And the weight thrown around isn't chump weight either.


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