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IBUpRoFIN

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posted February 11, 2001 10:11 PM

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Ok I know many of you are going to tell me not to use gear at such a young age, but i have so much to gain and such little to lose. I am 6 foot 6 and only weigh 205. I started as a sophmore for my high school. My dad is alumni at CU and my school has sent 3 kids in the last two years to Washington so I have a very good chance at getting a scholorship if I bulk up by next season. I dont really care if I stunt my growth, caus 6 foot 6 is still a giant!!

Anyways I have two cycles in mind. 1. Very expensive, yet very safe (8 weeks 35 mg winnie & 250 mg primo per week) 2. More to gain, but not neccesarilly the best for a teenager (500 mg sostenon 250 a week for 8 weeks and Dianabol pills 25 mg/day for first 5 weeks)oh yeah, then clomid therapy for 100mg per day for 1 week then 50 mg a day for the next week
So without saying I am too young for AS, unless you have specific reasons besides sturting my growth could you help me out? Do either of these cycles look good to you? If not what do you suggest

P.S. I have posted a thread like this before and most of you already agreed if you had the chance you would go back and take the juice at my age....this post is basically just to clear up the actualy cycle

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Burnboy

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posted February 11, 2001 10:30 PM

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go with 2 take some milk thistle while on d bol youll be fine

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LATTIMER

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posted February 11, 2001 10:35 PM

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I'm not here to tell you no but im 6-1 240lb and started when i was 24. If you want to no one can tell you no cause you will if you want, you know that! As far as would I do it if i knew then what I know now YES!!!!! Only because I was never the strongest at my size then, now I'm 40lb heavier and happy and thats what its about to me. As far as a cycle either one will work its not alot but being the first time it should give you some gains. If you feel that positive about it be careful and dont run your mouth, keep it to your self especially if your still in school. GOOD LUCK and let us know progress......

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Transcend1

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posted February 11, 2001 10:36 PM

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You have a ton of test surging through you now. Train right, eat right, rest, and save your money is my first instinct.

On the other hand, if money is not an issue, you have nothing to loose (if your carefull). If you do try a cycle, don't try the winny/primo cycle. That is not a mass cycle, and it sounds like your tring to pack on some meat. Go with the test and dbol.


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BerkeleyJuice

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posted February 11, 2001 10:43 PM

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For football you will definately want to go with the test/d-bol. By the way, you could probably up the d-bol a little bit. If you'r gonna do it, do it right.


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2bpro

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posted February 11, 2001 10:49 PM

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why the hell do all people that have never did a cycle want to do d-bol????? have you ever tried eating enough food. i mean so much every meal you can barely get it down. probably no. instead of doing test and d-bol try high anabolic steroids. thats if you decide to.


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IBUpRoFIN

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quote:
Originally posted by BerkeleyJuice:
For football you will definately want to go with the test/d-bol. By the way, you could probably up the d-bol a little bit. If you'r gonna do it, do it right.

how much would you suggest me upping it by? and what exactly is milk thistle?


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the*_Rat

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posted February 11, 2001 11:25 PM

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If you start now think of how much you will have to take when you are 25

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dcmh13

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posted February 11, 2001 11:30 PM

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I would do a cycle but do not go over board.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted February 11, 2001 11:32 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by dcmh13:
I would do a cycle but do not go over board.

when you say you would do a cycle but not go over board, you don't consider either of those cycles i listed to be overboard do you?


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LATTIMER

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posted February 11, 2001 11:38 PM

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ITS NOT OVERBOARD,EITHER ONE BUT I WOULD NOT DO THE WINNY GO FOR THE BULKING.


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George Stark

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Well, I can see you�ve made up your mind to do the juice. I�m not sure if I would make that same call but hell it�s your life and at 6�6� I wouldn�t be to worried about stunting your growth.
Here is my opinion. I would choose the second cycle. The only thing that worries me is your ability to inject your self, living at home. Hiding the juice and the pins well most likely be a pain. Also Sus 250 has a tendency to inflict some major pain. What will mom and dad say when you have a hell of a time walking? In doing this cycle I would lowerer the Sus 250 to 250mg. per wk. For you first cycle this way you well know what to expect from future cycles and you will not be wasting the juice as 250 mg. works well for most beginners. Also you could up the D-bal some but, remember eat as much as you can and then when you think your going to bust eat again.

Good luck with whatever you decide and please post your results and progress.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted February 12, 2001 05:26 PM

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this is basically a bump for any other peoples thoughts, but Gearge STark brings up a good point with hiding all the needles. So if you guys don't think the winny/primo combo would be good are there any other orals you might suggest?


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 12, 2001 05:33 PM

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okay, i'm 18 and i can help you, i have been training for 4 years now, using gear only for 1 year, and let me tell you that 500mg of sustanon with 25mg d-bol is ENOUGH for a teen to make you grow...go for it!!!!!


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aq53

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posted February 12, 2001 08:54 PM

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Rigth now im in the same position as you, kind of. Im 19 though and I am on my second cycle of 500mg Brazilian Sust 250 and D bol. Im also 6'6", but I weigh 230. I'm 2 1/2 weeks into this cycle and have already put on 6 lbs. If I were you I would wait another year or year and a half. You still have more years to develop and grow. Work out for a year naturally to get a good base, then start up. The results will be alot better.


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 12, 2001 09:34 PM

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yeah thats true bro, you need a good fundation B4 starting. AND dont do cycles that often,,2 per year are okay for the young guys.


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Eramthgin

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posted February 12, 2001 09:36 PM

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Don't do it.


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The Man Child

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Dive in bro. Best thing I could have ever done. I was 245lb. going into the summer of my Senior year. I went with a Sus/Dbol cycle for only 6 weeks. I went all the way up to 287lb. I am 6'4'' and was 6'4'' when I started, so I also said who cares about stunting my growth. I was getting a few offers from the smaller schools but I wanted the big boys and that's why I decided to cycle. Now I'm playing for a D1 PowerHOUSE!! Go for it and maybe I'll see you in the BCS Championship playing against me....


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted February 13, 2001 12:03 AM

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Hey where do you play ball man child? I am hoping to follow my dads footsteps and play tight end for CU!


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mb2001

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posted February 13, 2001 12:58 AM

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FORGET WAITING who ever is telling you to wait never had a chance to play d1 football if you have that chance take it by the balls and run for it because you'll regret it if you don't do it now, sure everyone knows if you wait "build a good base" you'll get more out of your money and do better but that's common sense. we are talking about a free scholarship here you spend that 500 to 1000 now you'll get that 40,000 or more for school its for love and for a better way of life that is football you want it bad enough you take the risks and that's just how simple it is you have a chance to play at a place like Washington then don't even think about not doing it its a given if you're a 205 no talent pud that thinks juice is going to take you to the next level then that's a problem...just thought i'd through my opinion out there


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