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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 05:54 AM

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OK, I am planning for my first cycle. It seems like the standard recommendation is Sus/DECA/DBol. Fine.

I am wondering what, if any, variations I should make on that, possibly using:

Winny
EQ
Primo
Other Test (can get Test Cyp)

Based on info below - should I substitute any of the Sus/Deca/bol with any of those? And which should I add/remove?

My concerns are - I do not want to bloat a lot. I dont need 30 lbs of new LBM - if I ended up with 15 hard lbs, I would be. very pleased. I already fight off a bit of acne, so I would rather not flare up a lot.

Stats - 37 Years, lifting for about 5 years, 5'9", 190 lbs, 9% BF.


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Solid Steel

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posted February 11, 2001 08:33 AM

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30mgs of dbol / day for wks 1-5
500 mgs of test / wk for 8 wks
Primo 300mgs or eq 300mgs / wk for 8 wks

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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 12:58 PM

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Oh, let me add (and bump):

I don't want a limp dick at ALL, and I do have a tendancy to get some stiff joints (shoulders, elbows, etc).


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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 01:54 PM

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Bump.


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 11, 2001 03:36 PM

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I would substitute EQ for the Deca and Cypionate or Enanthate for the Sustanon if I were you. If you do this you will not get Deca dick, you will not suffer painfull injections from the Sust, and you will not have to wait four weeks for all the Sust esters to finally be in your sytem at the same time.

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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 04:05 PM

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Interesting becuase I can get TestCyp as well.

So, hm, sound like ....

Sus/EQ/D-Bol

or

Sus/EQ?

Maybe some Nolv or Arim during will help keep water down as well.


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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 04:09 PM

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OK, duh, I screwed that up.

Sust or Cyp
EQ
D-Bol

or

Sust or Cyp
EQ


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dcmh13

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posted February 11, 2001 04:52 PM

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I would go with 500mgs of test or sust for 8-10 weeks. Do the dbol at 30mgs for 5 weeks. Either go with deca or eq at about 300-400mgs a week for 8-10. You could throw in some winny at the end to help soldify gains.


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Riker29

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posted February 11, 2001 08:39 PM

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OK, looks like
TestCypionate 400-500/week,
EQ Pprobably 300-400/week (of I can get it - DECA I can get more easily).

With D-Bol optional for a quick "kick".

A very learned of mine said "man that a lot for a 1st cycle!" Any comments?


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