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*Bump*

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posted February 11, 2001 01:47 AM

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I am 19 years old (save it), and getting ready to start my first cycle.

I'm basing it on 500mg of sust a week, for 8 weeks, but I can't decide on the what to use with it.

I want to put on a solid 20 lbs, but I'm worried about side effects, specifically acne.

I can throw in any of these, in whatever combination:

-Primo
-Deca
-Dbol
-EQ
-Winny

I could always do the standard sust/deca/dbol, but I think the acne sides would be pretty high on that, so I was thinking of doing the sust with something like eq, and or primo, but looking for the opinions of the boardmembers. Thanks.


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posted February 11, 2001 02:21 AM

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A man

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posted February 11, 2001 02:29 AM

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You could hit up Sus and winny. I am doing an upcoming cycle in which i will be cycling winny with Deca. I am doing so to stay lean and hard and to also keep the bloating down to a minimum. You could cycle winny and sus and the winny would help prevent some sus bloating,(fat face, bloated stomach,etc.). Good luck with what ever you chose. Keep us posted on your results. Later bro!!


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therealj

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posted February 11, 2001 02:30 AM

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eq@300mg run it 3 weeks past your last sust shot then start clomid/clen


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banana

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posted February 11, 2001 02:32 AM

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hey man just hit sust and deca if you dont grow off this then I dont know what you will grow off of.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 11, 2001 02:33 AM

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I WOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT ACNE THAT MUCH BRO, I AM DOING A SUST,EQ,D-BOL CYCLE RIGHT NOW AND HAVE NO ADDED ACNE BECAUSE I TAKE 2 SHOWERS A DAY, WASH WITH ANTI-BACTERIAL SOAP, USE A FACE STEAMER AND TRY TO GET IN THE STEAM ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSABLE. I WOULD DO THIS
SUST 500MG/WEEK FOR WEEKS 1-8
D-BOL 30MG/DAY FOR WEEKS 1-5
EQ 400MG/WEEK FOR WEEKS 3-12
CLOMID 100MG/DAY FOR WEEK 13, 50MG/DAY FOR WEEK 14 AND 50MG/EOD FOR WEEK 15. HAVE SOME NOLVA OR ARIMIDEX ON HAND IN CASE YOU FEEL SIGNS OF GYNO COMING ON. HOPE THIS HELPS, GOOD LUCK BRO

M18


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posted February 11, 2001 02:36 AM

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I too was thinking a sust/eq with some dbol to kick it off.


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basskiller

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posted February 11, 2001 03:01 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by MUSTANG_18:
. HAVE SOME NOLVA OR ARIMIDEX ON HAND IN CASE YOU FEEL SIGNS OF GYNO COMING ON. HOPE THIS HELPS, GOOD LUCK BRO

M18


How much or in what quantities do you take with either of them?

I've read this similar quote many time over, but no one sez how much.

Everyone sez to have them.....just in case,
But how much do you need onhand?

Thanks Bro


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therealj

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posted February 11, 2001 03:08 AM

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I have no personal experience with arimidex but 1/2-1 tab ed seems to be the norm as for the nolva 10mg eod keeps water retention down and estrogen at bay


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MUSTANGRACER27

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posted February 11, 2001 04:48 AM

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250 mg sostenon
200 mg deca / week
clomid or hcg after cycle.

..i would say leave the DBOL for next cycle if you dont reach your goals.

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basskiller

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posted February 11, 2001 04:55 AM

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Thanx Therealj,
I found some info off a link over at Conan69's site.


Some will take nolvadex all the way through a course, others will wait until they get an itch behind the nipple indicating the oncoming gyno, they then take up to 40 mg a day for 1 week decreasing this dosage to 10 mg a day for the rest of the course.
It is a little liver toxic, but has no other side effects as far as I am aware. The usual dose is 10 or 20 mg per day. If you choose a dose of 20 mg. A day the core body temperature is raised slightly and this can assist in the burning off of excess calories.

More Info http://www.ironsup.force9.co.uk/page4.html


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