x
Almost there! Please complete this form and click the button below to gain instant access.
EliteFitness.com FREE Email Series: How You Can Use Winstrol, Masteron, HGH, and Testosterone for a Perfect, Muscular Physique!
- -
We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe.
- -
  Elite Fitness Bodybuilding, Anabolics, Diet, Life Extension, Wellness, Supplements, and Training Boards
   Anabolic Discussion Board
  Meanone and anyone that does short cycles

Post New Topic  
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

Author Topic:   Meanone and anyone that does short cycles
dissto

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 128
From:canada
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 10, 2001 11:39 AM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


i was reading about short cycles and want to try a few. can someone give me their cycles and what they gained? i am thinking of doing 3 dbol/winny/fina/t3 cycles, but dont know exactly how to do this. any help appreciated


Click Here to See the Profile for dissto   Click Here to Email dissto     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
dissto

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 128
From:canada
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 10, 2001 11:43 AM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


bump

------------------
ahh lonelyness. how would i know who i realy am without you!


Click Here to See the Profile for dissto   Click Here to Email dissto     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Delinquent

Cool Novice

Posts: 23
From:Florida
Registered: Jan 2001

posted February 10, 2001 12:08 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I'll bump that one. I'm also interested.


Click Here to See the Profile for Delinquent   Click Here to Email Delinquent     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
dissto

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 128
From:canada
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 10, 2001 01:29 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


come on, i need help


Click Here to See the Profile for dissto   Click Here to Email dissto     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
MeanOne

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 546
From:
Registered: Dec 2000

posted February 10, 2001 03:24 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Okay, well my advise is going to be VERY debatable by several people, but I will give you the "Typical" short cycle, then my modified versions.

Typical
-50mgs of winstrol/day for 13 days
-100mgsof suspension/day for 13 days
or
-300mgs of propinate/EOD for 9 days
optional
-75mgs of Fina/EOD for 12 days

Gains:
Expect 3-5 lbs, keeping all of it (besides water if suspension is used).

Take 3-4 weeks off, do it again.

My Modified Short Cycles and results:
*THESE DOSAGES ARE NOT TO BE COPIED BY ANYONE WHOM READS THEM!!! I HAVE DETERMAINED OVER TIME WHAT IS SAFE FOR *ME!* ADJUST YOUR DOSAGES BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE!*

Modified:
1600mgs of Test. Enanthate day 1
500mgs of Enanthate day 5
300mgs of fina/EOD days 1-12
20mgs of Nolavdex/day 14 days
100mgs of Clomid/day 21 days
and
150mgs of Anadrol days 1-13
-OR-
100-150 mgs of winstrol days 1-13
-OR-
100mgs of Dbol days 1-13

Gains: 5-12lbs in 14 days, huge spike in strength, have always kept 95+% of the gains.


Now then, those dosages are insane, so lets deal with the second part of your question.

If you are relatively new to steriods here's a decent first short cycle, just to try.

-200mgs of Propinate EOD days 1-9
-75mgs of winstrol days 1-13
-100mgs of clomid days 1-21

You should gain and keep several pounds, 3-7 is reasonable I would say.

Just remember, while cycling or otherwise, the most important thing is diet. Good luck.


Click Here to See the Profile for MeanOne   Click Here to Email MeanOne     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
dissto

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 128
From:canada
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 10, 2001 03:43 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


what if i dont and cant get test. i want to use fina/winny and dbol. can i do fina at 150eod, winny at 100ed and dbol at 10ed for 14 days?
shoudl i use clomid throughout? or just at the end?

------------------
ahh lonelyness. how would i know who i realy am without you!


Click Here to See the Profile for dissto   Click Here to Email dissto     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
MeanOne

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 546
From:
Registered: Dec 2000

posted February 10, 2001 04:20 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


You can use those, but I would definately prefer to see less 17aa drugs in the mix, and a test. However, liver harm shouldn't be too bad for only 13 days on. I use clomid throughout, and I shoot fina ED. If your bound and determained to use that much of a 17aa drug, without knowing your tolerances, then 100mgs of winny and 50 mgs of Dbol would work. Thanks to Huck I have a fuller understanding of how exactly Clomid works, and I would think that using it during the cycle would prove to be of a large benefit.


Click Here to See the Profile for MeanOne   Click Here to Email MeanOne     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
jbone

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 58
From:
Registered: Nov 2000

posted February 10, 2001 06:20 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Great cycle info, MeanOne. Been looking at the idea of short cycles because I want to stay away from the crash. Also, the short ones make sense because your body isn't being asked to adapt to a major change. 5 to 10 pounds is reasonable to keep. The strength spike is reasonable too. Thanks for your help, gonna be storing this info for later use.


Click Here to See the Profile for jbone   Click Here to Email jbone     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
manacho2

Novice

Posts: 4
From:
Registered: Feb 2001

posted February 10, 2001 06:25 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


i did fina alone for 14 days and gained 8lbs and added 35lbs to my bench , i think short cycles are the way to go you may get smaller results but you will get less if not any side effects.


Click Here to See the Profile for manacho2   Click Here to Email manacho2     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
2bpro

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 122
From:
Registered: Jul 2000

posted February 10, 2001 10:33 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


short cyccles are the way to go. experiment...do a cycle for 12 weeks straight starting low and then high then back down and see what gains you made and then keep. then do short cycles like described above and see the gains you keep.


Click Here to See the Profile for 2bpro     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
winstrol69

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 305
From:
Registered: Nov 2000

posted February 11, 2001 12:59 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Ok, this is what I don't understand. The point of short cycles is to not supprese your natural testosterone, then why are you using clomid MO?


Click Here to See the Profile for winstrol69   Click Here to Email winstrol69     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
MeanOne

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 546
From:
Registered: Dec 2000

posted February 11, 2001 03:37 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


For several reasons...

A - work partially as an anti-estrogen

B - prevents several glands from reading high levels of estrogen to keep the body's HTPA axis more stabble, as it will be supressed to a small degree no matter what.

C - it can't hurt and isn't expensive. If anything, it will help, so don't cut yourself short because you feel like saving $10, literally.


Click Here to See the Profile for MeanOne   Click Here to Email MeanOne     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
winstrol69

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 305
From:
Registered: Nov 2000

posted February 11, 2001 05:25 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Interesting...thanks


Click Here to See the Profile for winstrol69   Click Here to Email winstrol69     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  
Hop to:

�2016 EliteFitness.com. All rights reserved.