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Author | Topic: Meanone and anyone that does short cycles | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
i was reading about short cycles and want to try a few. can someone give me their cycles and what they gained? i am thinking of doing 3 dbol/winny/fina/t3 cycles, but dont know exactly how to do this. any help appreciated ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
bump ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 23 |
I'll bump that one. I'm also interested. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
come on, i need help ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 546 |
Okay, well my advise is going to be VERY debatable by several people, but I will give you the "Typical" short cycle, then my modified versions. Typical Gains: Take 3-4 weeks off, do it again. My Modified Short Cycles and results: Modified: Gains: 5-12lbs in 14 days, huge spike in strength, have always kept 95+% of the gains.
If you are relatively new to steriods here's a decent first short cycle, just to try. -200mgs of Propinate EOD days 1-9 You should gain and keep several pounds, 3-7 is reasonable I would say. Just remember, while cycling or otherwise, the most important thing is diet. Good luck. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
what if i dont and cant get test. i want to use fina/winny and dbol. can i do fina at 150eod, winny at 100ed and dbol at 10ed for 14 days? shoudl i use clomid throughout? or just at the end? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 546 |
You can use those, but I would definately prefer to see less 17aa drugs in the mix, and a test. However, liver harm shouldn't be too bad for only 13 days on. I use clomid throughout, and I shoot fina ED. If your bound and determained to use that much of a 17aa drug, without knowing your tolerances, then 100mgs of winny and 50 mgs of Dbol would work. Thanks to Huck I have a fuller understanding of how exactly Clomid works, and I would think that using it during the cycle would prove to be of a large benefit. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 58 |
Great cycle info, MeanOne. Been looking at the idea of short cycles because I want to stay away from the crash. Also, the short ones make sense because your body isn't being asked to adapt to a major change. 5 to 10 pounds is reasonable to keep. The strength spike is reasonable too. Thanks for your help, gonna be storing this info for later use. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 4 |
i did fina alone for 14 days and gained 8lbs and added 35lbs to my bench , i think short cycles are the way to go you may get smaller results but you will get less if not any side effects. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 122 |
short cyccles are the way to go. experiment...do a cycle for 12 weeks straight starting low and then high then back down and see what gains you made and then keep. then do short cycles like described above and see the gains you keep. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 305 |
Ok, this is what I don't understand. The point of short cycles is to not supprese your natural testosterone, then why are you using clomid MO? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 546 |
For several reasons... A - work partially as an anti-estrogen B - prevents several glands from reading high levels of estrogen to keep the body's HTPA axis more stabble, as it will be supressed to a small degree no matter what. C - it can't hurt and isn't expensive. If anything, it will help, so don't cut yourself short because you feel like saving $10, literally. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 305 |
Interesting...thanks ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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