More important than your steroids, more important than your training. You cannot get big unless you are taking in enough calories (the cleaner the better) that your body can use to feed new muscle.

By diet, I don't mean Salads either. Its Tuna, Chicken Breasts, Quality Carbs, Lean Red Meat, and Protein Shakes. Eat many times a day if your eating 3 times a day, then great you will be the same size as everyone else who eats 3 times a day.

Don't under-estimate your food intake and how high it needs to be to put on weight.

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I am into the 5th day on my sust/dbol cycle - I have already put on 9 lbs (eating all clean calories). I eat 6-7 meals per day - I aim for 4000-4500 calories and 300 grams of protein daily. I am a natural endomorph, so any more than this and the fat will pile on.

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Breakfast
Cereal with 2% milk
1 Banana
1 Pear
1 Protein bar

Lunch
Double quaterpounder with cheese
Regular fries

Snack
Quarterpounder with cheese

Post workout
1 protein bar

Dinner
Baked salmon
Red kidney beans
Mixed vegetables

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I hear a lot of people cry about how they didn't gain anything. When asked how much protein they took in a day they say how they had steak once a week and drank milk daily!

RESEARCH BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING!! I don't care if your using supplements or juice-

Bad Diet = NO GAINS = WASTED MONEY = YOU CRYING!!

If you want to be 250lbs eat like it!

Then sometimes I see people saying that in the middle of a cycle they stop growing and sometimes it get pointed out they were eating a little over maintenance, so know that they have gained 20lbs they are at maintenance and just fueling the body for the day and not growth.

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Unless you are completely genetically gifted; if you eat sh*t you will look like sh*t; if you don't eat sh*t you won't gain sh*t

You have to put your Monay where your mouth is- Meat and Protien replacement- it ain't cheap being big

While I eat clean most meals, I have to admit, it't hard to get enough calories in on chicken breast.

If you do weight gainers, then people say it's too much sugar/carbs and you get fat. If you do junk food, then people say it's too much fat and you get fat. I kind of use both in mix (weight gainers/burgers, etc) along with clean food.

I totally agree. I'm into my first full week on my Sust 500mg & Deca 300mg per week cycle. I'm up about 6lbs. I spent a small fortune stocking up on stuff like protein bars and protein powder so I can get what I need during my busy daytime schedule.

I'm heaving down as much as I can in 6-7 meals a day. I'm getting so bloated at times I feel like Fat Bastard from Austin Powers.

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Originally posted by DREXX:
FOOD IS VERY ANABOLIC!!!

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LOL ar Drexx.

Anyways, eating "Clean" may not always be the best bet. This should open up some flame action, but once your understand protien metabolism, you will see why MCT oil works. Fats obained from primary veggie sources will be breaken down by the body quickly to produce energy, and the more of these fats that are used, the less protien that get's broken down for the same purpose.

To metabolize 1 gram of protien requires 6 calories. 1 gram f protien holds 4 calories. You need to make up for this somewhere.

I think I will just leave it at that, it should be enough (just a little bit, mind you) to start some flame/debate action.

I have first hand experience to back this up!
FOOD is the most important, gear is not magic.

My experiences and personal experiments over the years with myself and others have allowed me to draw the conclusion that diet is not the most important factor but rather genetics. Genetics determines metabolic efficiency and a host of other factors that determine your growth rate.

We have all been fascinated with the Myostatin gene over the past few months. Well what is that gene exactly? It is a genetic trait that determines the extent of our muscles ability to grow. If you lack that gene or it is damaged, your muscles will grow with no bounds unless you are in a chronic state of starvation. Many people speculate that natural mesomorphs have a slightly damaged myostatin gene. These are our pro-bodybuilders and that guy who you envied in high school who was a monster who never set foot into a gym in his life. Or that stoner/drug dealer you knew who had 17" arms, 3%bf and lived off Doritos and Snickers (true story).

HOWEVER, in a discussion board you need to generalize. Everyone that reads it won't be so genetically gifted, and being that we can't magically change our genetics, we need to control the things we can to the best possible level. For the average person, eating sicker's and chips won't help them get big. Eating 3 chickens a day and 2 steaks will. We can partially overcome genetic inferiority's with anabolics.

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Originally posted by Bchemist:
Again, I will not argue that diet is not important. But far too many times the people who state this also have incredible genetics and have a hard time accepting that they are gifted.

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NO SHIT, HUH