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It's amazing how any product that actually contains t.propionate is considered a dirty steroid- ttokkyo testonon, IP sustanon/Karachi sustanon, testoprim, brovel T50, O.G. sostenon preloads (from at least 5 years ago), omnadren, aratest and others have all for the most part been labled as unclean compounds- but what do they all have in common? Testosterone propionate. Use your heads. If you're new to the gear game a cycle of REAL sustanon/sust clones will not be the same as a cycle of t.cypionate, dbol or t.enanthate....SUST hurts.

And if people think European (very vague term- you should be a little more specific considering Mexico is part of North America and North American steroids are probably the cleanest in the world as a whole) just check out the US Customs or FDA website and read how many "european" pharmaceuticals are banned from entry into the U.S. because of sub-par manufacturing standards from said country.

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Originally posted by Damian Borleone:
And if people think European (very vague term- you should be a little more specific considering Mexico is part of North America and North American steroids are probably the cleanest in the world as a whole) just check out the US Customs or FDA website and read how many "european" pharmaceuticals are banned from entry into the U.S. because of sub-par manufacturing standards from said country.

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Everything you say about Ttokkyo has to be taken with a grain of salt. We know that you love the stuff more than anything else in the world. You seem to be a company spokesperson of some sort (although you will eny it...LOL).

Anyway, when I say European, I mean EU...and that my friend has the highest quailty in the world (including all of N. America).

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Originally posted by BIG RICK ROCK:

Hey 2Thick, If I put up $50,000 for a company to get started I would also become their spokes person since it is in my best interest for their them to make money, (Not that I'm saying anybody put up 50k for any company or anything.)

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Oh My God...he hath risen from the dead!! Where have you been for the past few months??

Anyway, "vested interest" gets in the way of the TRUTH every single time. Just because he is a spokes-person/investor does not mean that he is giving us the info that is in the consumer's best interest.

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Ttokkyo has proven time and time again that they make good products, both from independent lab testing and adecdotal evidence from users. Go ahead and use the products -- you won't be disappointed.

Hy>
for you question is :
not all the vet products are good,the reason the laboratorys are not to
good,but my company is one of the best on those cain of products,the reason
we know the markething and if make good products we can sales a lot a
products.
we salects 10 products the most famous on the markething,we used the same
material of human products the same ingredient,the same oil,and we have
100% control steril.
you can trush ttokkyo company.
thanks
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:20:47 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

So, it seems Ttokyo is one of the good firms, unfortenatly this guy would not give any names.

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I can say mexican labs dont have the quality control that European labs do, but they dont just mix the stuff with a tooth pick and pour it in a rubbermaid trash can. I beleive there is higher standards then you think.
Ttokkyo is striving to get major client with their new tren product and their high concentration Eq and deca. They are for cattle to produce a larger amount of beef, for thoroughbread horses. These animals are worth 1000's even 10,000's. I think they want their products to be as good as they possible can. If a Kentucky derby horse can take EQ then I'll stick in my ass!!!!

Bring it on!!! TTOKKYO RULES!!!!

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If a Kentucky derby horse can take EQ then I'll stick in my ass!!!!

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I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

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Should I rephrase??

If the owners of a Kentucy Derby horse feel comfortable giving to their prize possesion Eq, them I feel comfortable injection a feww ccs into my Glute.

Is that better.

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Hey 2Thick, If I put up $50,000 for a company to get started I would also become their spokes person since it is in my best interest for their them to make money, (Not that I'm saying anybody put up 50k for any company or anything.)

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Now BRR this sounds like an accusation, if your going to say something why don't you say it? Do you think anyone in this thread put up 50k for ttokkyo? If so I feel sorry for you that you should be so gullible - I bet you heard that from a vendor who carries "other" products that ttokkyo is whoopin ass on the market. If your referring to DB you have NO CLUE what you are talking about (I don't know who else you would be referring to.)

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Ummm lets see Ultragran = Denkal = Australia <<( so i have heard/

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ummm wrong, I don't see Mexico anywhere in there, 2Thick was correct its made in Mexico under the australlians label.

Im not flaming les, but you have to admit if your going to ask something - ask it objectionably, its called 'poisining the well' or embedding an answer within a question such as:

"Only idiots wear pink, do you were pink?"

Now who would say they wore pink (other than Ranger! ahh got love for you buddy j/k!) after that statement. The same could be said for your topic name. Only an observation Les, so don't get macho on me too.

Use your heads don't be a sheep, if you notice (you wont b/c alot dont post on these topics b/c they are tired) alot ALOT of veterans in this game are using Ttokkyo stuff, if you go to the "other board" where the newbie to vet ratio isnt so high you wont see people mistaking propiniates pain with a "dirty product" - b/c they know that happens with prop.

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I'm not accusing anybody of anything,

Jeeeeeezzzzz

Slopain you are a cool mofo as long as the post doesn't have the word "ttokkyo" in it, you turn into such a faming queer everytime somebody mentions ttokkyo, chill out bro.

Very Perceptive!!

I admit I was a little harsh, but its like Slo said, you are "implying" that TOKKYO products are dirty.

How can you make this assumption? I am just sick and tired of people knocking the shit. I have used various forms of TK in my last 2 cycles and have not experienced any of the outrageous, beaten-to-death, sterility problems. I made very good gains, gains compared to that of any brand of AS I have used in the past. It is bad enough that AUSVET or Denkall, what ever you want to call it has made a PATHETIC attempt to permanently stain TK's rep. In reality this is where all of this HORSESHIT about TK has came from I suppose.

Origionally posted by: SLOPAIN

"Im not flaming les, but you have to admit if your going to ask something - ask it objectionably"

Amen!

Now I have apologized for the harshness of "my comment," and I am not much into computer fights so I am willing to forget about this. In case you are not you know where I live and I would be glad to give you exact directions to my house via MAPQUEST or if it is an emergency I can me you halfway.

Have a great day!

when are you coming back up to NY ???

I just don't understand why some people don't use their noggins, I wasn't flaming you just edgy (just got on a fina cycle) and tired of seeing people bash something I know from first hand exp. is good. If they were saying this about Denkall/Illium or Organon I would have the same passion. ITS ALL GOOD!

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This is a bit off topic in terms of the quality of Mexican products but what makes you think that EU products are of higher quality than North American products? I understand that Mexico does lower the standard of quality of NA drug products (well then so does Greece and Portugal for the EU) but I'm focusing more on US products because the US accounts for the VAST majority of pharmaceutical production.

FDA and EU GMP guidelines are based upon very similar principles and backed by similar guidances (and the FDA has been a model for many EU regs).The last decade has seen a large effort to streamline these regulations through the International Conference on Harmonisation.

The European Agency for the Evaluation of Medicinal Products and FDA have similar guidelines and inspection procedures/ authority. And I would like to point out that the same FDA and EAEMP guidelines apply to human and animal drugs.

Almost half of the major global drugs (those approved in the United States, Europe, and Japan) developed during 1975-1994 were of U.S. origin, followed by the U.K. with just 14 percent. More than 35 percent of worldwide pharmaceutical research and development is conducted in this country.
The US is the leader of worldwide pharmaceutical production and the FDA has served as a model for international regulatory agencies and tends to have more "teeth" in terms of ensuring compliance and enforcement.

I'm sorry if I took this off-topic but you had made this statement before and I do not see any evidence indicating that EU products are of "higher quality" than North American (mainly US) products.

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From the sound of this you have already already started a shouting match.
Grow up!

Damn I was just in Shelby Township too!
What a small world!

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Hey 2Thick,

This is a bit off topic in terms of the quality of Mexican products but what makes you think that EU products are of higher quality than North American products? I understand that Mexico does lower the standard of quality of NA drug products (well then so does Greece and Portugal for the EU) but I'm focusing more on US products because the US accounts for the VAST majority of pharmaceutical production.

FDA and EU GMP guidelines are based upon very similar principles and backed by similar guidances (and the FDA has been a model for many EU regs).The last decade has seen a large effort to streamline these regulations through the International Conference on Harmonisation.

The European Agency for the Evaluation of Medicinal Products and FDA have similar guidelines and inspection procedures/ authority. And I would like to point out that the same FDA and EAEMP guidelines apply to human and animal drugs.

Almost half of the major global drugs (those approved in the United States, Europe, and Japan) developed during 1975-1994 were of U.S. origin, followed by the U.K. with just 14 percent. More than 35 percent of worldwide pharmaceutical research and development is conducted in this country.
The US is the leader of worldwide pharmaceutical production and the FDA has served as a model for international regulatory agencies and tends to have more "teeth" in terms of ensuring compliance and enforcement.

I'm sorry if I took this off-topic but you had made this statement before and I do not see any evidence indicating that EU products are of "higher quality" than North American (mainly US) products.

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Well greece is not in the EU yet...but it is close. I can't argue with Portugal.

Okay, I will concede that the US and Canada probably are equal to the main EU countries (Deutschland, France, Austria...etc.)

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