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Spunky

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posted February 08, 2001 11:12 AM

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I finally broke the ice with one of the big juiceheads at my gym.. and started a conversation with him. Eventually we started talking about steroids and he told me he noticed i've gotten alot bigger and asked what my cycles were.. I told him I've only done 2 cycles and they were pretty simple, just single drugs. He told me its a whole different ball game when you start stacking drugs and that the gains are much better. His 1st couple cycles were simple he said but he never made great gains until he started stacking the right drugs together. He said one of the best stacks he's ever done is Sus250, dbol, and t-200. Maybe this post is retarded, and I know its been said before... Thats why when I start my 3rd cycle im gonna be patient and wait till I can afford all my gear and do a good stack. Im basically talking to all the new guys because this basically just hit home with me too... Don't do like I did and go buy a few hundred dbol and do a cycle or a couple vials of test and do a cycle.. I made some decent gains with simple shit but i've seen first hand through this guy that if you do one good stack you'll think those gains off of your small cycles weren't shit. Soo.. im gonna start dropping quarters in the piggy bank so I can buy a real cycle. =)


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The Ghost

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posted February 08, 2001 11:35 AM

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I disagree. I have seen guys grow into giants using simple, basic methods. I think we as human beings, tend to complicate most everything that we can. If one drugs works well, then two must be better. If two works great, then holy shit, can you imagine three drugs at once? This is the prevailing train of thought among many bodybuilders. I have several friends who have gained enormous amounts of body mass over the last five years using simple, basic, yet effective routines. Granted they aren't pros, but they do look very good. Some of the common themes among them are using test as a basis to every stack. Getting enough rest. Eating enough food to grow. Training like madmen. Hell, one of my friends just used test and that was it. He started lifting weights back in the mid 90's. He was around 5'8"ish and weighed 135lbs soaking wet. He is now around 245ish and his abs are slightly visable. That is pretty damn good. You know what he uses? Test and dbol. Over and over again. That's it. He uses a ton of it, but that's all he uses.

Now, if you want to become a pro, you probably will need more than just test and dbol, but who here is really going to be a pro? Aren't we doing this to look great, get big, and feel good about ourselves? You don't need to combine 300 drugs to achieve that. I think by keeping it simple and working hard, you can get everything you want. Just my opinion.

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Spunky

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posted February 08, 2001 11:43 AM

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So you think if training and diet were in order in both people, someone taking Sust & Dbol would make just as many gains as someone taking Sust, Dbol, and maybe Deca?


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Ffactor

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posted February 08, 2001 12:00 PM

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It all depends on what your goals are and also your physiology. My first cycle was a mild deca and d-bol pyramid cycle and it was disastrous. My second cycle was sus and deca and I gained 10 pounds, did not lose a thing. My third cycle was test and primo and I gained another 10-15 lbs and have not lost anything. These gains are more than adequate for me. Therefore, I will always combine an anabolic with an androgenic. Not all of us have the same goals and I'm guessing the majority of the people here are not competitive bodybuilders.


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The Ghost

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posted February 08, 2001 02:34 PM

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Spunky, that is hard to know for sure. I think much of the reason behind the enormous physiques of some bodybuilders is more dose related than types of drugs used. I'm just saying what I have seen from personal experience. I have seen guys mess around with pidly amounts of winstrol, deca, and dbol and gain a few pounds here and there. Yet, I have seen those same guys go on a six month cycle of straight test and grow into very big men. I have also seen other guys who use large amounts of other drugs and they to have grown into very big guys.

They guy I was talking about earlier started at 500mg of enanthate per week. Every three to four months, he would up the dosage by 500mg, while taking clomid and nolvadex througout. Over the years he eventually went from 135 to 245. It took a long time, but he made it. Now he maintains that physique with around a gram of test and that's it. He is a very big guy with an awesome physique. All he used was test, but he used ALOT of it. So, from what I have seen throughout my years of lifting is that most of the gains are more dose dependent rather than type of drug. Of course, all other things such as diet, rest, and training have to be on par. Again, those are just my experiences. I only go by what I see, not what I hear.

-TG


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 08, 2001 03:23 PM

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This one homeboy at my gym only uses test and he get's soooo jacked! I think he does a gram a week split up into two shots. Since test ist the best, why use the rest?

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jarabbit

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posted February 08, 2001 03:52 PM

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Very good thread! Have to agree more with Ghost on this one. Maybe 2 combined like a test and a primo or anavar to bring out the muscles more and such but no need to use more than 3 drugs at once. I do believe there is a synergistic benfit from 2 drugs together


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