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 Deca without Winny and sides, can it be done?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 58 |
I'm not sure if my source will ever come through on the winny so, if I can find some nolvadex and clomid would it be OK to start with 400mg Deca? I have been training for over 15 years. This will be my first cycle. I also have some Test. Would the clomid and nolvadex keep me from getting sides with this stack? I think I might just wait until I have some Winny too, but I was kind of hoping to start this before summer. I may be getting older, but I still want to look good on the beach.    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 615 |
Run the test at 500mg a week and the deca at 300-400mg a week. Nolva will help with the test aromatization, but not the deca. I don't think you'll have problems, but depending on your body and age I would rather be safe than sorry. Get some winny just in case. You could run the cycle for 6-8 weeks and see how you do. Don't forget the clomid post cycle.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 750 |
I believe that deca gyno is dose related. You should be fine. Just my uneducated opinion. B True | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 938 |
Well, here is my uneducated opinion, and personal experience: Deca sucks, and all its gonna give you is some serious acne, and gyno. Im not a big fan, and yeah, this is my personal experience, but im just forwarning you before you jump into it. EQ would be a much better choice. Does not aromitize NEAR as much, and its easily combatable with clomid/Nolva. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
So hardcore, I guess that means I need to just toss my Deca. Seriously guys, thanks for the replies. I definitely won't start without getting some winny first. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 750 |
Man...this sucks. I have 6 grams of ttokkyo deca sitting in my storage room. No winny. I can't get any winny unless I am willing to pay an arm and both legs. The winny that I can get is $70 for 200/2mg tabs. That is alot in my opinion. Don't you have to have like 15-25mg per day? I will be taking 300-400 mg deca a week. B True | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 104 |
Just do it, a month ago everybody was advocating the use of deca. Now everyone hates it. You only live once. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 33 |
Hey Bro, I wouldn't jump into it unless you are sure you have what you need ( such as the winny) I see quite a few post were the person regrets not having the winny ( or other gear) in their bag and they run into an obvious side effect- when their dosages are posted. I'm in the same situation thinking about summer, But, i am waiting for some other "ingredients" to come through. Your at least educating yourself. Theres a lot who aren't Good Luck KNOWLEDGE IS KING | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 325 |
Berkleyjuice must not have ever had the pleasure of getting progesterone induced gyno. Otherwise he wouldn't tell you to go for it. I however, have gotten gyno from deca and can tell you it sucks. The bottom line is: don't be afraid to do the deca, but do yourself a favor, be patient, wait for the winny. Its the only thing that will help you if the worst happens. You may never need it, but it will be nice to know its there if you do. BTW, I'm not bashing deca or flaming my man Berkley. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 67 |
The deca will NOT aromatize at 400mg or less per week. I have never heard of anyone taking Nolvadex at this levels. |
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posted February 07, 2001 01:31 PM