All you read is true, but this does not mean everybody will react the same.

PGF2a: a second milestone (started on 19 january 2001)

Found myself a Belgian pharmacie and the woman was so kind to order for me 2 boxes
of Lutalyse Upjohn. (Here in Belgium it is name Dynolytic (dinoprost tromethamine, which is the same as Lutalyse in the U.S.A.). The boxe contains 5 bottles of 10 cc and as a standard 5 mg/cc of the PGF.

Well today i restarted my PGF2a use and this for the following reasons:

* wanted to lean the shoulders and arms even more out and this time the goal was to optain
one inch on the arms. Since for me PGF gave no size before, this time i would use the stuff together with Winny Zambon. The Zambon (after shaking) also goes through an insulin needle, is also water based, so the stuff would be mixed and shot at the same time.
Since the PGF is a fast acting drug, even the Winny (also fast acting, but not THAT fast) would not be able to interfere the first 30 minutes of injection, i hope.

* want to use roids again and the PGF will help the BP to stay low.

* want to do 2 cc's of PGF a day mixed with 2 cc of Winstrol Zambon. Using 2 injection cycles of 2 shots, so Winny would be taking in the morning and evening for 14 days.

* want to find out if the pain will be back there as before, the coughing, the chills, the sweating....

* want to find a way to get around any side without using anything that would alter the
good (?) work of the Lutalyse...

* also the Ranger and Huck where on it, and that inspired me to restart again. B.B. Val will be at it again soon and may also have some interesting things to say.

PGF2a will be taken for a few weeks to get my body stable and then use the mix with the
Winny. Also i will use milk tistle in heavy doses for 14 days before hitting the Zambon.
(Another reason for waiting with the mix, i still do not have the Winny for the moment, but i have a prescription for 12 boxes, hehehe).

I was thinking about all this already for a month, could the pain stay away? My last shot was on 24/10/2000, so we are almost 3 months later. My personal thought, no, that would be impossible.

Taking 1/2 cc in the left tri's (today is arms training day, so the shoulders will get it tomorrow).

So 10.05 am and the stuff is in for 5 minutes and NOTHING happens. No sweating, no
coughing, no chills, no pain. I once again look at the box to see (again) if it says PGF2a and yes it does.
Taking immediatly the second 1/2 cc in the right tri's. One hour later and no coughing, no
sweating, still NO PAIN. For the bathroom question, i still use herbs so the going is easy.

14 am same day and shooting 1 cc at once (left and right bi). Still no coughing, no chills, no sweating, feeling nothing coming in the lungs, NO PAIN.
Sunday 28/01 taking only 1 cc in the morning.
After 10 days of no pain i wanted to report this on the boards, but to make sure i was not
mistaking the dose had to go up.
Monday 29/01 taking 2 cc's at once, which was the maximum i ever took in one injection
cycle and even then it was only once in a while. Usually taking 1 1/2 cc because at that dose
i didn't feel too lousy. Still 2 cc's that monday and nothing happened.
Tuesday 30/01 taking 3 cc's at once. Two coughs with some minutes in between, no chills, a little sweat on the forehead, no lung attack, NO PAIN. And this was twice my favorite dose i used to take WITH pain.
I wanted to stop upping the dose since 3 cc's at once is not bad at all.
Wednesday 31/01 and was curious how much more i could take right now. Did 1 cc in the left front delt, 1 cc in the left tri, and immediatly 1 cc , in the right tri. Trying to put the fourth cc in the right front delt, but being nervous i almost dropped the syringe. Also had to try 3 times before the 30 gauge was in. All this because i was afraid.
This time coughing was back. Had to cough just once and a few minutes later again. A total of 7 coughs. Had the chills for about 40 minutes, sweating all over the face, just a little bit on the body. a MINOR lung attack each time there was a cough. You could hardly notice this lung attack. NO PAIN at all.
Pain is no longer an issue, it's more a disconfort. Up to now i still feel more disconfort shooting 1/2 cc in each bi, than shooting 4 cc's at once in the delts and tri's. But at that dose one feels a bit sick because there is much Lutalyse travelling through your body and you are not used to up the dose this fast.
Taking 5 cc's at once right now would be pushing it. Not for the pain but for the sick feeling. But one could gradually up the dose. I am very convinced that 5 or 6 cc's would be possible in the near future. If only growth would occur (hehehe). Unfortunatly my feet begin to hurt again. After the 4 cc shot my hands where getting very cold, as if blood doesn't reach your fingers anymore. Also it felt as if the hands where getting the same problem as the feet, but it is to soon to be certain of what is happening.

Conclusions:

Well the muscle cells remember. They remember where you left them when you stopped the shooting.
I had no pain with my last shot on 24/10 last year and do not have pain on 19/01 this year.
This means you can get used to PGF and have to go trough the pain barrier only ONCE in
your life.

That's what this article is about, you can beat the pain.

So anybody can take small doses at once, go at it for months and once the pain is away, the sky is the limit.
The body remembers. Further more every cell in your body gets affected and STAYS affected. It�s not like your receptors getting full, then empty again.
It has been 3 months. I don�t know if after 3 years the body would remember, but my guess is YES, because if after 3 months of non-use a little pain had come back, then there was an indication that the effects of the Lutalyse where going away. But no, no pain at all. So right now if i had to give points from 1-10 for pain, i would give PGF 3 or 4 points, like roids, no more than that. (And i used to give PGF 8/10).
So i already know now, this will NOT be my last PGF use. Anyhow the sweating, the chills, the coughing and the lung attack (at least when taking 3 cc's at once or less) are no longer a problem. But most important the pain was conquered. No longer climbing the walls.
Still there are too many injections to take and shooting the bi's frequently also gives too much disconfort, unpleasant. So it depends on the muscle how you feel.

Strange enough when you read the little addy in the box, it says 1 cc every day for each cow (???????).

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Jeff

Quite simply....YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!

If it is your first try, upping 1/2 cc a
time is maximum.

H� Ranger, are you still on it? And seeing results?

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Jeff