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crazyguy

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posted February 06, 2001 01:47 PM

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okay this will be my first cycle ok here goes

weeks 1 to 8 sust 500mg
weeks 1 to 8 deca 400mg
weeks 1 to 5 dbol 30mg

any suggestions would be appreciated
i was also wondering if i should add say some primo weeks 6 to 10 400mg

everyone so far has been telling me to hit it hard for the first cycle but i would like some more feedback thanks


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2Thick

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posted February 06, 2001 01:50 PM

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It looks like too much to me. I would definitely taper the Deca down during the last two weeks.

Also, how many years have you lifted non-stop?

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 06, 2001 01:57 PM

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Seems like you have done a lot of research bro, good luck with your cycle. You should be very happy with the results.

Peace

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crazyguy

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posted February 06, 2001 02:04 PM

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i have lifted about 3 and a half years nonstop and the only reason i stopped then was for injury
total about 5 to 6 years


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2Thick

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posted February 06, 2001 02:10 PM

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I would just like to note that you will probably make dramatic gains on this cycle but you will have to keep using mega-doses for the rest of your years in order to keep getting decent gains. This means that it will cost more and lead to more side-effects.

If you start with lower dosages. You may not gain as much but you will make better gains over the years while staying healthier and richer.

More is not better especially if you don't like ugly stretch marks and high blood pressure. Think about all sides of the issue before using mega-doses.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 06, 2001 02:19 PM

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Ahh 2Thick whats up?

While I am going to agree partially with what 2Thick has said, I do not believe that you should reduce the test and in my opinion a faster acting test such as enanthate would make for a better choice. However whatever test you use 500mgs is a good starting point. I wouldn't go under 20 mgs of dbol but 25 obviously would be better. As far as the deca goes how about 300mgs throughout the cycle.

2Thick while there has been no evidence to show a body has a steroid maximum limit, there has also been none to show it doesnt. What is clear though is that the pros are only going up and down a few pounds in lbm / yr and look at the abuse they are using. I would assume they have reached their steroid max and are trying anything and everything possible to gain an extra 1 lb or 2. Some years they weigh in 5 lbs heavier some years 5lbs lighter. This balances out and would make me believe that who ever pronounded that theory was making a correct assumption.

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mike001

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posted February 06, 2001 02:57 PM

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keep the test where it is at. go with deca at 300/week. dbol looks fine. have fun & grow


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