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  Can you gain LBM on a kinda sorta cutting cycle...??

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EmptyWallet

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posted February 05, 2001 03:41 PM

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Can you gain lean body mass on a kinda sorta cuttin cycle. I have tons of prop, and 50 tabs of IP's 50mg winny, and my own ECA. My question is if i run the prop high can I gain a good 10 pounds of LBM while loosing a moderate amount of body fat??? Im not talking like huge gains, maybe 10 pounds or a little more. Any suggestions??

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Beezers

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posted February 05, 2001 03:47 PM

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Don't kinda sorta a cutting cycle. That's plain ignorance and lazziness. Either put 110% into bulking or cutting to get the most out of it. It you half ass anything it is guaranteed you will not succeed. Determine a goal and go for that goal. If you want to add body mass...Bulk. If you want to cut bodyfat while maintaining muscle mass...Cut. Don't expect to add serious mass while in the calorie restricted state of a cutting cycle. It's not going to happen.

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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 05, 2001 03:51 PM

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I THINK IT WOULD BE POSSABLE. YOU COULD TRY THIS

WEEK****PROP****WINNY****E/C/A****CLOMID***
1*******1CCEOD************ED***************
2*******1CCEOD************ED***************
3*******1CCEOD**50ED***********************
4*******1CCEOD**50ED***********************
5*******1CCEOD**50ED******ED***************
6*******1CCEOD**50ED******ED***************
7*******1CCEOD**50ED***********************
8*******1CCEOD**50ED***********************
9*********************************100ED****
10*********************************50ED****
11********************************50EOD****
I DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG IP'S STUFF IS BECAUSE I AM NOT THAT KNOWLEGABLE ON IT SO I PUT THE TYPICAL DOSAGE FOR THE WINNY. IF YOU HAD CLEN THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO RUN THE WEEKS YOU ARE OFF THE ECA. I AM NOT THAT GOOD WITH DIETS, SO I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE MUCH OF A HELP TO YOU FOR THAT. HOPE THIS HELPS, GOOD LUCK WITH THE CYCLE.

M18


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EmptyWallet

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posted February 05, 2001 03:55 PM

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understood. i wasnt gonna half ass it. You may have misunderstood me on that. But i wondered what would happen if i ran the prop really high, and didnt decrease my calorie intake as much, but still decreased it. I be using my own kick ass ECA and IP's 50mg winny tabs.

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EmptyWallet

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posted February 05, 2001 03:57 PM

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Thanx stang.

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Rugby

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posted February 05, 2001 04:01 PM

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IP is very good. I would but some more tabs though. Run it for 8 weeks at 150mg ed. It takes 4 weeks to notice so run it for the full 8. And run the 200mg prop at 1cc eod. If it is your 4th or 5th cycle try 1cc ed


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Solid Steel

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posted February 05, 2001 04:22 PM

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It is very possible but will take a lot more effort and fine tuning to both increase lbm and reduce body fat levels at the same time. It is nothing to do with the steroids you use though, in short all steroids are designed to increase protein synthesis thus allowing for more aminos to be converted into muscle tissue. It is your diet that is going to have any impact on whether or you you gain lbm and reduce bf levels.

As Beezers said, do one or the other but not both at the same time. Unless you and your body are at one it is going to result in poor progress.

What you are going to need is a highly anabolic steroid such as primo and use it in high doses 400mgs/wk or above. Others as well, test to be included for the obvious reasons.

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EmptyWallet

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posted February 05, 2001 06:11 PM

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very good suggestions here, is the prop ip makes really 200mg/ml or less??

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posted February 05, 2001 09:29 PM

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Bump for me....

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The Juggernaut

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posted February 05, 2001 09:35 PM

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Oh yeah. That is all I do now is cutting cycles basically. Fina will shape you out and get you veiny...strong. Eq will help out the fina with a little strength and veins. Propionate is like fina, but will give you a little more weight....maybe a little water, but not much. Here you go...................
50-100mg test prop eod
75-150mg fina eod
100mg eq eod
Keep your protein high and carbs low...keep calories up, lots of red meat and cheese.
Hope this helps
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nahanrac

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posted February 05, 2001 09:38 PM

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I just came off of a short cycle with aratest,clen, and t3. I gained 6 lbs of muscle and lost 1 lb of fat. So, I would have to say you can cut and bulk at the same time. I just ate like normal, only paying attention to getting protein throughout the day when possible. Just thought I'd throw this in.


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posted February 06, 2001 12:49 PM

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Bumping for the people at work.

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